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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are two areas where Boehner has compromised. Where has Obama compromised?
    Why should Obama compromise? There's widespread support for tax increases on the wealthy and little support for major entitlement reform.

    Why should the views of a minority on both accounts be the starting of any negotiation?

    The views for lower taxes or no tax increase and entitlement reform was center stage in the election. The view lost. When either policy is asked Americans overwhelmingly disagree even moreso than the spread in the election.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Latest deal Boehner offered is identical to what Shumar, Pelosi and Reid wanted last spring, the "millionaire" tax, and now its not good enough for them.

    I still wish the Republicans' would walk out and say take your cliff and love it.
    Yeah..it's called a major change in bargaining position. As of now, all tax cuts will expire and spending cuts will happen over 2 years at the "fiscal cliff" including major defense cuts. If you wanna go over the cliff let's go!
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Latest deal Boehner offered is identical to what Shumar, Pelosi and Reid wanted last spring, the "millionaire" tax, and now its not good enough for them.

    I still wish the Republicans' would walk out and say take your cliff and love it.
    I know I view it different from some, but I see major compromises from one side and only minor compromises on the other.

    I believe that the government should not be allowed deficit spending except in time of war. But then, my only active credit is my house and car, so I don't live on credit. I even pay my car insurance in lump sum every 6 months instead of monthly payments.

    One thing I did find interesting though, looking over that deficit history, Under Johnson, with the Vietnam war going on, he and congress managed to reduce the deficits of the Kennedy years and also cut the highest tax rate. I am, by no means, a fan of LBJ, but damn, what did they do then that we can learn from now?
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    I'm 100% all for it; told my congressman as such (Republican), lets roll ! Enough of this over spending crap. People need to pay their bill and the cliff ends the tax cuts for everyone not just the rich. I like it - I hope obama holds too it - but he won't.


    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah..it's called a major change in bargaining position. As of now, all tax cuts will expire and spending cuts will happen over 2 years at the "fiscal cliff" including major defense cuts. If you wanna go over the cliff let's go!

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    I'm 100% all for it; told my congressman as such (Republican), lets roll ! Enough of this over spending crap. People need to pay their bill and the cliff ends the tax cuts for everyone not just the rich. I like it - I hope obama holds too it - but he won't.
    Sure at least now there would be some certainty rather than constantly kicking the can down the road and having some disasterous last minute negotiation every 9 months.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Why should Obama compromise? There's widespread support for tax increases on the wealthy and little support for major entitlement refom.
    Then we are ****ed as a nation.
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then we are ****ed as a nation.
    You're just now realizing that? We have been on the Highway to Hell for a longtime now. No way to really fix it because the fixes would be too unpopular, which in an open democracy pretty much translates into "we ain't never gonna fix it".
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You're just now realizing that? We have been on the Highway to Hell for a longtime now. No way to really fix it because the fixes would be too unpopular, which in an open democracy pretty much translates into "we ain't never gonna fix it".
    Call me a harbinger of hope..
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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Obama just provided his first compromise...
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: White House won't accept new tax offer from Republican leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Obama just provided his first compromise...
    I like Kabuki theater don't you?
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