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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    The only real answer is for everybody else to just stop showing up and stop reacting.

    They're already generally relegated to a spot away from the actual event. If NOBODY showed to up protest their protest, and if NOBODY showed up to record and broadcast their presence, or even existence, then they would gain nothing and slowly fade away. It would be just a half-dozen nutjobs on a street corner with unnecessary police protection... and even that police protection would disappear in short order.

    Unfortunately, we don't have that kind of self-restraint ourselves. They will be around as long as we encourage them.
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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Would love it if a bunch of people just show up at thier little picket wearing clothing from head to foot (ski masks and all) and just beat the ever loving crap out of these people. Can't sue someone you can't identify.
    I think in that case he would sue the city or town for not protectring him and his clan.

    He might win too.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I know its horrible to say but why cant THESE people get blown away!? Why do these nut-jobs kill innocent people instead of people from this cult??? At least THAT makes SOME logical sense.
    Because this isn't China, North Korea, USSR etc just yet...

    Despite how vile these crazies are - we still have First Amendment rights. You don't have to agree with their message (and I don't think many do) but they still have the right to let their voices be heard.

    If they can't speak their mind then that means you cant speak your mind.

    If you can sensor their speech than whats to stop authority from censoring your speech - you see - it's a real slippery slope.

    The best thing to do would be to just ignore them or tolerate them for the sake of our Bill of Rights.

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Because this isn't China, North Korea, USSR etc just yet...

    Despite how vile these crazies are - we still have First Amendment rights. You don't have to agree with their message (and I don't think many do) but they still have the right to let their voices be heard.

    If they can't speak their mind then that means you cant speak your mind.

    If you can sensor their speech than whats to stop authority from censoring your speech - you see - it's a real slippery slope.

    The best thing to do would be to just ignore them or tolerate them for the sake of our Bill of Rights.
    I think the best thing to do would be to create some really really offensive signs (to westboro of course) and picket the picketers. They might have 10 or 20, so surround them with 100 and just keep chanting something clever and offensive to them.

    Maybe even provoke them into an assault, so they could be sued for a gazillion or so.
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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    These nutjobs need to be tear-gassed next time they protest at a god damn funeral. Seriously.
    **** tear gas. Throw some mustard their way.
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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    Quote Originally Posted by gunner View Post
    It would be interesting to see some stats, on where and when, citizens were charged over such issues. For me, that looks easily open for abuse.

    It looks to be quite a complex issue

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    They don't really keep stats on that but there are some interesting court cases from the last century that established a few standards and tests for the limits of a right. Hate speech isn't illegal as it is in other countries however there is a limit. Basically one may not defame someone, assault them, incite violence, or be profane in certain times/places/manners. Sedition used to be a crime, the court overturned that, sedition was basically issuing anti-war propaganda during a time of war at the hinderance of the effort.
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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    I think the best thing to do would be to create some really really offensive signs (to westboro of course) and picket the picketers. They might have 10 or 20, so surround them with 100 and just keep chanting something clever and offensive to them.

    Maybe even provoke them into an assault, so they could be sued for a gazillion or so.
    That's THEIR shtick. Provoke and sue. It would take a person with an immense amount of self-control and wonderful acting ability to beat them at their own game.

    They are profiteers of the first amendment. No, they are not religious. No, they don't hate fags. They just love money and they love free speech (to the extent that it helps them extort money from people at their weakest/least rational moments via the civil justice system).

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    They are profiteers of the first amendment. No, they are not religious. No, they don't hate fags. They just love money and they love free speech (to the extent that it helps them extort money from people at their weakest/least rational moments via the civil justice system).
    I don't agree with the bolded. Nothing I've seen or read suggests that they aren't true believers. They know how to sustain themselves and work the system, but their beliefs are real.

    The father is the leader of the cult. He physically and mentally abused his children and created a climate where they feared leaving because it would anger God. (And his way is, of course, God's way.) There is probably little hope at this point for the adults who didn't escape earlier in their lives like a few of his children did, but my heart aches for the young kids now being brought up in the group. The next generation of abused, brainwashed haters is being created. Very sad,

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    Re: Westboro Baptist Church plans to picket Connecticut victims' funerals

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