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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    So...instead of giving Bill head, she gives it to the floor.
    Stay classy.

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Hillarious.....

    I feel for anyone dumb enough to buy into Hillary's excuse not to testify in the Benghazi cover up.

    She didn't even go to the Hospital so there is no record of her injury.

    Lies. lies to cover lies.

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I will break this into smaller chunks to make it easier to follow each thread.
    Where did you see evidence of bad communications between agencies? It appears that all relevant agencies were working from the same data at the same time. This is NOT the first time something bad has happened. State, Defense, CIA, NSA, and the White House all had the same information. None of it pointed to a protest over a video.
    The bad communication I'm referring to is one agency's inability to communicate its needs to another agency, or, if you like, one agency's inability to appreciate the needs of another agency. One or both of these scenarios is clearly what happened here.

    The president said as soon as he heard he told Defense (Panetta?) to make sure those people were safe. Here is a quote from the president, "“Well, we are finding out exactly what happened,” the president again said. “I can tell you, as I’ve said over the last couple of months since this happened, the minute I found out what was happening, I gave three very clear directives. Number one, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to. Number two, we’re going to investigate exactly what happened so that it doesn’t happen again. Number three, find out who did this so we can bring them to justice. And I guarantee you that everyone in the state department, our military, the CIA, you name it, had number one priority making sure that people were safe. "

    The president debunks your claim of bad communications. It was clear to him, according to his quote, that he knew Americans were in danger. There were many other indicators, almost immediately, that everyone in WADC, was getting information as the attack was ongoing.
    I don't see how the president debunks my claim at all. He was aware that our personnel were in immediate danger. That was never in question by anybody.

    What resources were strained?
    They were not well allocated....again.

    Given all that had occurred in Libya I am confidant we had lots of other intelligence gathered before, during, and after the attack.
    Maybe, maybe not. I don't know and neither do you. I'm also deleting all of your other questions because, as you're a full blown conspiracy theorist, an infinite number of dots are connected and in your mind deserving of consideration. I'm not falling into that rabbit hole as it has not bottom.

    This attack lasted roughly seven hours. Confusion is for amateurs. It lasts for just a few minutes. Not seven hours.
    But apparently arriving at conclusions before the facts are in is for professionals. The attack according to both timelines lasted for over an hour and a half.

    So what is the regime hiding?
    What are you hiding?

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    My first issue is with a timeline that was provided two months after the attack. There is plenty of time to get everyone on the same page in two months.
    They did get on the same page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    How come air cover was not provided? There is no explanation. And yet the first jets could have been overhead about two hours after direction to go there.

    Why didn't we ask any of our allies for help?

    It has been three months. When will we know what Obama did or failed to do?
    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

    How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

    Does God have feet?

    How many wars will it take til he knows that too many people have died?

    See, I can ask infinite unrelated questions too.

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Earlier I wrote, "Where did you see evidence of bad communications between agencies? It appears that all relevant agencies were working from the same data at the same time. This is NOT the first time something bad has happened. State, Defense, CIA, NSA, and the White House all had the same information. None of it pointed to a protest over a video.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The bad communication I'm referring to is one agency's inability to communicate its needs to another agency, or, if you like, one agency's inability to appreciate the needs of another agency. One or both of these scenarios is clearly what happened here.
    Or we could move on to what is most likely. The inaction points to the president. Defense, apparently, needed the president's permission to provide armed response.

    The president said he told everybody to do what was necessary to protect our people. So who did the president fire when no action was taken?

    I also wrote, "The president debunks your claim of bad communications. It was clear to him, according to his quote, that he knew Americans were in danger. There were many other indicators, almost immediately, that everyone in WADC, was getting information as the attack was ongoing."

    I don't see how the president debunks my claim at all. He was aware that our personnel were in immediate danger. That was never in question by anybody.
    Of course it does. There were no bad communications. It was clear to everybody up to and including the president that the consulate was under attack. The president said to act and no one acted. So how many people did the president fire?

    I also asked, "What resources were strained?"

    They were not well allocated....again.

    Given that the president directed everyone to act why did no one act? And who got fired?

    I also wrote, "Given all that had occurred in Libya I am confidant we had lots of other intelligence gathered before, during, and after the attack."

    Maybe, maybe not.
    If not who has been fired for incompetence? It is unbelievable that we did not and do not have substantial intelligence gathering going on against Libya. From my experiences I noted resources nearby that would very likely be gathering information to turn into intelligence.

    I don't know and neither do you.
    I may have an advantage based on my earlier experiences as an intelligence officer. We were there. We were gathering. We were reporting. I have absolutely no doubts about it. If we were not then who was fired for incompetence?

    I also wrote, "This attack lasted roughly seven hours. Confusion is for amateurs. It lasts for just a few minutes. Not seven hours."

    But apparently arriving at conclusions before the facts are in is for professionals. The attack according to both timelines lasted for over an hour and a half.
    Seven hours. Not 90 minutes. There may have been ten minutes of confusion. There were people in WADC who were on secure and unsecure phones with people in the consulate and annex during the attack. I have stood the watch and know that one's adrenalin can shoot way up when one begins to get the messages that something is happening. This was not a case where an incomplete message came in, then a while later another incomplete message came in and another and another over a period of hours. There were two way comms between the people in WADC and the Consulate in Benghazi.

    I'm also deleting all of your other questions because, as you're a full blown conspiracy theorist, an infinite number of dots are connected and in your mind deserving of consideration. I'm not falling into that rabbit hole as it has not bottom.
    You are free to participate to whatever level keeps you comfortable.

    What are you hiding?
    This question is nonsensical.
    Last edited by Misterveritis; 12-18-12 at 04:35 PM.

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Earlier I wrote, "My first issue is with a timeline that was provided two months after the attack. There is plenty of time to get everyone on the same page in two months."
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    They did get on the same page.
    Right. It took them two months to figure out the story they wanted to tell us. Do you see any problem with that? Logs are created as events occur. Why didn't we see a timeline by the end of the next week?

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Earlier I wrote, "How come air cover was not provided? There is no explanation. And yet the first jets could have been overhead about two hours after direction to go there.

    Why didn't we ask any of our allies for help?

    It has been three months. When will we know what Obama did or failed to do?"
    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
    How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
    Does God have feet?
    How many wars will it take til he knows that too many people have died?

    See, I can ask infinite unrelated questions too.
    Maybe you should have just said that you are uncomfortable holding the One accountable for anything?

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Quote Originally Posted by mr4anarchy View Post
    Stay classy.
    As the brits say, "Oh for ****'s sake, come off it you miserable ****."

    Yes, I made a joke about a woman who had a concussion. Oh. My. Lawd.

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Well she did manage to get off a Statement today.....with what the Independent Panel discovered. Looks Like Hillary was Lacking all this time. Do you think she figured out now that Since Security was Was virtually non-existent In Libya. That she is Responsible.

    Has anyone questioned her about what she told the Navy Seals Father about locking up the Maker of the Anti Muslim Film. Tell her don't forget all those othe stupid things she let come out of her mouth.

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    Re: Hillary Faints and Sustains Concussion

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    As the brits say, "Oh for ****'s sake, come off it you miserable ****."


    Yes, I made a joke about a woman who had a concussion. Oh. My. Lawd.
    You made a joke about a woman claiming to have suffered a concussion to avoid testifying before Congress.

    It was funny.

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