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This passes for "reasoned" in your circles?
My circle is America and it's people , what's your's.?
This passes for "reasoned" in your circles?
If there are 2 politicians running for office and 1 is for less gun control and the other is for more gun control and the only ones voting is the people that have the right to buy guns would there be some bias in that election???eace
Clearly, you jest.My circle is America and it's people , what's your's.?
What are we agreeing to disagree on?
Clearly, you jest.
You're basing your statement on having the right to own a gun = more likely to vote for a pro-gun candidate.
If you need me to explain how this is unsound, its clear you are not really worth my time.
I guess I -do- have to explain it to you.See that part in the white vobove your statement , says presluc that means it's to me.
Perhaps if the victims of gun violence were allowed to sue the gun manufacturers who by and large are the ones mainly responsible for promoting the gun violence and profiting the most off the blood of gun violence victims, then perhaps they wouldn't have had the incentive to keep promoting those types of weapons to vulnerable, gullible, law abiding citizens like Nancy Lanza.
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I guess I -do- have to explain it to you.
Everyone that has a right to vote also has the right to own a gun.
If your premise were sound, pro-gun candidtes would win the majority of elections.
Clearly that is not the case, and so your premise is proven unsound.
Moot isn't concerned with protecting innocent people, he's only interested in disarming the law abiding.This is nonsense. "profiting off of gun violence" Good grief. :roll:
I see you refuse to accept the fact you have been proven wrong.So does this mean I'M WORTHY AGAIN? LOL
That makes no sense at all.
1) Do you want convicted felons and the criminally insane to vote?
2) Do you trust these fine citizens with the right to vote yet would deny them the right to own guns?
3) Do you want the very people with their gun rights limitted to vote for limitting the gun rights of others out of revenge?
What the? Did the weapons malfunction? Did they fail to live up to what they are advertised to do? Did the person firing the weapon not know that if fired at people that it is likely to result in injury or death?
Did the maker of these guns explicitly advertise as the best weapon to kill children with?
This is nonsense. "profiting off of gun violence" Good grief. :roll:
I see you refuse to accept the fact you have been proven wrong.
No real surpise.
Your refusal to be intellectually honest is wrong.THEN YES YOU CAN SAY I AM INDEED WRONG.
I agree this is nonsense gun manufacturers should not be responsible.
Finding a way to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people or people on medication for depression and bi polar disorder is not nonsense it is common sense.eace
Sorry missed your post.
My response is simple.
Which would you rather have visit your home or workplace an avid metally ill voter with a voters registration,OR
AN AVID MENTALLY ILL PERSON WITH AN AR 15 AND A GLOCK AND A sig?
Think hard now don't hurt yourself.eace
Did Freedom Group, the maker of the Bushmaster AR -15 say they were saddened or even show any sympathy regarding the Newtown massacre? I note the NRA sort of did, but they didn't make the guns. So why did the NRA feel the need to speak whereas the gun manufacturers were largely silent and showed no sign of sympathy for the victims killed with the use of their product? Their silence speaks volumes.What the? Did the weapons malfunction? Did they fail to live up to what they are advertised to do? Did the person firing the weapon not know that if fired at people that it is likely to result in injury or death?
Did the maker of these guns explicitly advertise as the best weapon to kill children with?
This is nonsense. "profiting off of gun violence" Good grief. :roll:
Did Freedom Group, the maker of the Bushmaster AR -15 say they were saddened or even show any sympathy regarding the Newtown massacre? I note the NRA sort of did, but they didn't make the guns. So why did the NRA feel the need to speak whereas the gun manufacturers were largely silent and showed no sign of sympathy for the victims killed with the use of their product? Their silence speaks volumes.
Private equity firm Cerberus has put U.S. firearms maker Freedom Group up for sale following Friday's killing of 20 children and 6 adults at the Sandy Hook school shooting in Connecticut.
Freedom Group includes Bushmaster, maker of the rifle used in the shooting at the school in Newtown. Cerberus bought Bushmaster in 2006 before adding another 10 makers of firearms, ammunition and accessories to the group.
"It is apparent that the Sandy Hook tragedy was a watershed event that has raised the national debate on gun control to an unprecedented level," Cerberus Capital Management said in a statement.
Cerberus will hire advisers to carry out a sale of the company, and return the money to its investors, which include the California State Teachers' Retirement System (CalSTRS).
Cerberus to sell Bushmaster gunmaker after Newtown shooting - Dec. 18, 2012
Btw, if H. White Lee thinks she speaks for me, she is sorely mistaken. Her defense of the blood for profit gun industry is sickening and pathetic and she should be ashamed. But that would be too much to ask of her kind.
Well, I'd say you're wrong about Freedom Group and I don't see anyone rushing in to buy the company in the wake of the massacre...which is a pretty strong statement too.. Oo, returning money to investors ie;himself, how thoughtful..silence? First off the company isn't owned by Freedom Group, and hasn't been since 2006. I found this little ironic ditty....
I'd say selling the company in the wake of the murders is a pretty strong statement....Oh, and returning the money to investors...Including The California state teachers retirement system! Oh BLAMM!
".....The Freedom Group’s origins date to 2006, when Cerberus acquired Bushmaster Firearms. The firm then consolidated the fragmented gun industry, acquiring at least six other brands and rolling them into one company to create the Freedom Group, which is based in Madison, N.C. Freedom is on track to post about $900 million in revenue this year....<snip>
Mr. Feinberg has a penchant for investing in military-related businesses. Cerberus’s holdings include the military contractor IAP Worldwide Services and the satellite provider GeoEye. Cerberus also explored an investment in Blackwater USA, the private security contractor since renamed Academi, but a deal never materialized.
A major Republican donor, Mr. Feinberg has Dan Quayle, the former vice president, and John Snow, the former Treasury secretary, on Cerberus’s payroll. Among the former military leaders on Freedom Group’s board is George A. Joulwan, the onetime supreme allied commander of Europe.
Mr. Feinberg is also an avid shooter and hunter — he favors a Remington 700 — and has a membership at the upscale hunting club Mashomack Preserve Club in Pine Plains, N.Y.
A fellow firearms enthusiast and Cerberus executive, George Kollitides, has served as the Freedom Group’s chief executive since March. Mr. Kollitides is a trustee of the NRA Foundation and a director of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association.....read
In Unusual Move, Cerberus to Sell Freedom Group, a Gun Company - NYTimes.com
Well, you aren't me, so why would you see? Posting it was more for her benefit than yours and obviously, I did google which is how I knew about Freedom Group first and you didn't. doh! But if I were you I wouldn't be bragging about defending people with the blood of innocents on their hands...but then I'm not you.I didn't see where she was trying to speak for you...Maybe that is your misreading. In any case take it up with her. I'd concentrate on googling a simple fact that took me less than 10 sec to come up with before you post your rants like above.
Because they had nothing to do with the shooting.Well, I'd say you're wrong about Freedom Group and I don't see anyone rushing in to buy the company in the wake of the massacre...which is a pretty strong statement too.. Oo, returning money to investors ie;himself, how thoughtful..
Oochie waa waa and blam, blam, thank you maam....Mr. Feinstein, gun enthusiast, investor in military related businesses, major GOP donor, and owner of Freedom Group, maker of the Bushmaster AR-15, the gun used in the Newtown massacre and the fireman shootings. His silence on the matter and trying to distance himself from the massacre is a little more than telling. In fact, he acts just like a man caught with the smoking gun in his hands.
Well, you aren't me, so why would you see? Posting it was more for her benefit than yours and obviously, I did google which is how I knew about Freedom Group first and you didn't. doh! But if I were you I wouldn't be bragging about defending people with the blood of innocents on their hands...but then I'm not you.
The question still stands: why didn't Freedom Group, maker of the Bushmaster AR-15 send their condolences to the Newtown victim's families?
What?Oh, but they did and they know it.....
Mr. Feinstein looks...apprehensive.
That's probably because you didn't bother to read the links or follow the discussion before chiming in. Don't blame me.What?
I...have no idea what you're talking about now...
Your refusal to be intellectually honest is wrong.
Wasting any further time on you is wrong as well. Into the pit.