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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Just responding to your posts.



    Lol, exactly.



    A gun in every house is a good idea. And, why would it have any impact on education? Non-sequitur.



    Sigh,



    Nothing I've said would lead a logical person to this conclusion.



    Actually, the headline is "Man without a gun is killed because he had no way to defend himself."
    No big deal.

    I don't think the dead at Columbine, Virginia tech, Aurora and Conn, need a lol.


    A gun in every house a good idea huh?
    That include gangbangers , blood crips, Latin Kings, Arian Nation maybe a few digruntled muslims as well?
    Do the people that protest get guns too?
    What kind AK'S, M 16'S ,LAWS ROCKETS MAYBE?

    TIRED?

    Yes you have you have said leave gun control laws alone , at least that's the impression I got.
    When after so much death it is simply not working.

    Are we to arm every citizen in America with a gun or are we to make it more difficult for people that shouldn't have a gun to buy one?
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    No big deal.

    I don't think the dead at Columbine, Virginia tech, Aurora and Conn, need a lol.
    Did this make sense in your head?

    A gun in every house a good idea huh?
    Absolutely. Areas with higher legal gun ownership have lower crime.

    That include gangbangers , blood crips, Latin Kings, Arian Nation maybe a few digruntled muslims as well?
    No.

    Do the people that protest get guns too?
    Yeah. Heard of the Black Panthers? It's kinda their schtick.

    What kind AK'S, M 16'S ,LAWS ROCKETS MAYBE?
    Any weapon they legally own.

    TIRED?
    Lol, hardly.

    Yes you have you have said leave gun control laws alone , at least that's the impression I got.
    Yes, I agree with a wait period on handguns and I agree that felons should be prohibited from owning them.

    When after so much death it is simply not working.
    The gun control laws have no affect on violent crime.

    Are we to arm every citizen in America with a gun or are we to make it more difficult for people that shouldn't have a gun to buy one?
    Yes and yes, within the confines of the constitution.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Responsibility has changed a responsible person with a gun , knows to respect it , knows to use it to defend theirself and knows to keep it out of the hands of other people that should not have access to a gun, they know it is their responsibility.
    However, in today's society irresponsible people are buying guns.
    WHY ARE GUNS SOLD TO IRRESPONSIBLE PEOPLE???
    C'mon. You can do better than that. When have we ever had a "responsibility" meter to measure folks with before we enable them to do all sorts of adult things. To suggest that irresponsible folks did not buy guns in yesteryear, but do now .............. like I said. Try again.

    You don't really believe the **** you posted. Do you ?

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Did this make sense in your head?



    Absolutely. Areas with higher legal gun ownership have lower crime.



    No.



    Yeah. Heard of the Black Panthers? It's kinda their schtick.



    Any weapon they legally own.



    Lol, hardly.



    Yes, I agree with a wait period on handguns and I agree that felons should be prohibited from owning them.



    The gun control laws have no affect on violent crime.



    Yes and yes, within the confines of the constitution.
    YES.

    That include crack houses?

    But these people do live in houses
    "A gun in every house is good idea" your words right?

    A gun in the right hands can be used as defense against a predator, a gun in the wrong hands can be used as , well check the news.

    Tell me the difference between a felon with false ID and a crazy person that buys a gun leagally.

    There is no violent crime here, only killing of innocents. by a person who bought or had easy access to a gun.
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    The oath read to protect all against threats foreign and domestic.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    C'mon. You can do better than that. When have we ever had a "responsibility" meter to measure folks with before we enable them to do all sorts of adult things. To suggest that irresponsible folks did not buy guns in yesteryear, but do now .............. like I said. Try again.

    You don't really believe the **** you posted. Do you ?
    I don't know, why don't you check the school shooting between 1950 and 1960.
    Now check the school shootings between 2000 and 2012?
    Check how many times and automatic weapon was used during school shootings between 1960 till 1970 .
    Check how many times an automatic weapon as been used from 1990 till 2000.

    Not to suggest to prove guns were not bought by crazy people in the yesteryear but that they were were not that easy to buy by crazy people in the yesteryear.

    Perhaps the reason is there are more crazy people today , or more people willing to sell guns to crazy people, if that is the case perhaps there should be a closer watch on who you sell guns to, or who sells guns.
    Which leaves us right back to gun control is it tough enough???

    I can not believe that a gun owner would not want tougher laws on selling guns if you have ever picked up a gun.

    Picture this weapon being sold leagally to a crazy person that just wants to pull the trigger to watch people die.
    Wether they are old or young disabled or kids at an movie or or kids in an elementary school.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Check how many times and automatic weapon was used during school shootings between 1960 till 1970.

    0, I believe.

    Check how many times an automatic weapon as been used from 1990 till 2000.
    0 also, I believe.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    0, I believe.



    0 also, I believe.
    My bad, when I make a mistake I will admit it.


    However , Virginia Tech automatic handguns were used were they not the same in Aurora the same in Conn.

    My point is simple when American society accepts innocent people teenagers and kids being killed as just the way things are something is wrong with American society

    Indeed if somebody walked into Wall street and shot people and brokers , gun control would not be ask for it would be demanded

    If banks were easy to rob something would be done
    Yet when teenagers at college are killed, people in a movie are killed elementary kids are killed you say sorry that's the way things are, we can't have tougher gun laws it would be an invasion of privacy, or that's the 2nd amendment can't be changed or updated ?
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    YES.

    That include crack houses?

    But these people do live in houses
    "A gun in every house is good idea" your words right?

    A gun in the right hands can be used as defense against a predator, a gun in the wrong hands can be used as , well check the news.

    Tell me the difference between a felon with false ID and a crazy person that buys a gun leagally.

    There is no violent crime here, only killing of innocents. by a person who bought or had easy access to a gun.
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    As I have said the Constitution does not stop at the 2nd amendmend.
    The oath read to protect all against threats foreign and domestic.
    Tell me when you're going to start making sense...

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Tell me when you're going to start making sense...
    Tell me when you are, on this forum everything is questioned.
    Education quote by more than a few including me is not working it should be investigated
    Social Security not working should be investagated
    American labor force
    Economics
    Government spending
    AND THE LIST GOES ON

    Changes have been made in all these some, good ,some bad.

    However you ask for better gun control you hit a brick wall.
    Thats not to take guns away from responsible people but to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people..
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Tell me when you are, on this forum everything is questioned.
    Question everything, but for the love of all that's holy....make a cohesive point.

    However you ask for better gun control you hit a brick wall.
    Thats not to take guns away from responsible people but to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people..
    You're not asking for better gun control, you're asking to ban guns.

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