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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    At one time segragation was law that was changed because it wasn't working.
    At one time the law came from the king of England that was changed because it wasn't working
    What everything stops at the law of gun control?
    No, controls are stopped by the Constitution. If you hadn't noticed, it does more to limit govt infringement on rights than it enables it.

    Tougher gun controls won't increase massacres either.
    Au contrair. The average massacre occurs in areas where the cowardly perpetrator is relatively certain that the victims are unarmed. Tough gun control will only disarm those that you would want to be armed. Those bent on murder will get the guns another way.

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    Right to privacy complete background inspections done on me when I applied to move into an apartment. driver's licence knows what car I drive , insurance companies knows if I smoke or not when I worked in a factory I was given random drug test like everybody else.
    Again, it is evident that you don't quite understand what a "complete" background check entails. I gaurantee you that no person was interview over your apartment application.

    Right to speech.
    That's one right even I won't test for if I went to the Lansing state legislative building and actually said out loud what I think of the governor of Mich. well let's say I'd be off line for awhile.
    So, you get to pick and choose which rights are worth protecting....gotcha.

    Right to associate
    Please, I'm an ex hippie I marched and assiciated in the 60's and I got beat up by cops , jailed by cops for that right., BEEN THERE DONE THAT..
    So if you want to come after my rights you may be late getting here but, COME ON
    Apparently the cops disabled your logic mechanisms.

    THE CURRENT GUN CONTROL SYSTEM LIKE THE CURRENT ECONOMIC SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING.
    I disagree.

    I'm not Swiss so why should I ask them this is my country America.
    If you actually looked into anything you'd realize that areas with high rates of private, legal ownership of firearms have low incidence of violent crime.

    Tougher than the ones they give now that's for sure.
    I think you need to look up what subjective means.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    ....THE CURRENT GUN CONTROL SYSTEM LIKE THE CURRENT ECONOMIC SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING.

    I'm not Swiss so why should I ask them this is my country America.

    Tougher than the ones they give now that's for sure.
    How do you measure that it is not working ? Because of such as Newtown, VA Tech, and Columbine ?

    OK, then apparently "gun control" was working in the 50's and 60's and 70's.

    What laws changed ? Or perhaps, its not the "laws" that have changed .........

    OBTW, none of what you suggest would have changed this recent tragedy.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Strange, I thought it was the bullets fired from a gun that killed 26 people in CT.?
    GUNS THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ACCESSIBLE TO A MENTALLY ILL PERSON.

    Odd, this guy needed mental help didn't get it , did not need a gun or guns got them.
    Only badly maintained or horribly designed guns have the possibility of firing without a finger on the trigger, and even that requires mishandling and obviously someone loading the gun.

    Ergo, gun did not fire bullets, person fired bullets with gun.
    Of course this guy shouldn't have had access to those guns. That's an issue with poor mental health care and bad parenting, it sounds like - he got the weapons from his mom?
    It's not an issue with gun control - except in that the person who owned the guns gave him access and should not have.


    Edit: Additionally, even extremely strict gun control measures will not stop those nutcases who give no outward signs of mental issues.


    As I view it, the only real way to prevent/stop violence on this level is to have more people armed with personal weapons, and specifically in this case, armed (concealed or even openly) guards at schools.

    FFS children are considered most precious by us, we go nuts when **** like this happens, but we can't deal with armed guards to protect them?
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Over 450 school age kids shot in Chicago so far this year. 62 of them died. Chicago has tough gun control laws, and is as Democrat as a pimple on a welfare whore's ass. Where's the results of gun control there ?
    You are seeing the results of gun control there. The criminals still have the guns, and the law abiding citizens no longer have them. Touchdown for the criminals.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You are seeing the results of gun control there. The criminals still have the guns, and the law abiding citizens no longer have them. Touchdown for the criminals.
    In nearly every instance of the govt trying to "make it better" you'll see good intentions perverted and corrupted by bureaucracy.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    In nearly every instance of the govt trying to "make it better" you'll see good intentions perverted and corrupted by bureaucracy.
    I have my own version of this:

    If the government tries to do something, they will fail. Also, in trying they will cause more problems then they solve.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Here's an interesting perspective from a woman at the National Review. Lanza would've been stopped if the school didn't have so many females in it.


    The principal, Dawn Hochsprung, seemed to have performed bravely. According to reports, she activated the school’s public-address system and also lunged at Lanza, before he shot her to death. Some of the teachers managed to save all or some of their charges by rushing them into closets or bathrooms. But in general, a feminized setting is a setting in which helpless passivity is the norm. Male aggression can be a good thing, as in protecting the weak — but it has been forced out of the culture of elementary schools and the education schools that train their personnel. Think of what Sandy Hook might have been like if a couple of male teachers who had played high-school football, or even some of the huskier 12-year-old boys, had converged on Lanza.

    link...

    Dawn "seemed" to act bravely?

    I particularly like the thought proccess that men can somehow stop a bullet better than women.

    This tragedy is bringing out the idiots in droves.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Dawn "seemed" to act bravely?
    In conservativespeak, that means she's not jumping to conclusions and taking it as fact that that's what happened. The clue is at the beginning of her next sentence: "According to reports.... " We all know how accurate media reporting is in the immediate aftermath of an event like this, especially when it involves "assault weapons" and "high-capacity clips."

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    This tragedy is bringing out the idiots in droves.
    No ****.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    In conservativespeak, that means she's not jumping to conclusions and taking it as fact that that's what happened. The clue is at the beginning of her next sentence: "According to reports.... " We all know how accurate media reporting is in the immediate aftermath of an event like this, especially when it involves "assault weapons" and "high-capacity clips."



    No ****.
    Talk about selective editing. Wanna address how huskier 12 year olds can stop bullets better than women that was omitted from your reply?
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Talk about selective editing. Wanna address how huskier 12 year olds can stop bullets better than women that was omitted from your reply?
    Not particularly. I just wanted to address for the liberal community what was obvious to the rest of us.
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