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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I am willing to place the parents comments into proper perspective of a grieving parent, and not one in the perspective in which we should make laws about.
    There is no rational law that would have stopped this from happening. None.
    I agree, no law. But we can certainly improve security designed to protect children, and that would require no new legislation or infringement on anyone's rights.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If pregnant women had the ability of pre-cognition, your point might be well-taken, but you pay your nickel, and you take your chances. Unfortunately, our society has stopped institutionalizing people who are a danger to society, and tries to mainstream them by treating them as if they are normal-functioning, and in fact anyone who dares to disparage someone who is not normal, is treated like an asshole who has no heart.
    Yes, I distinctly remember when Reagan defunded mental health institutions and all the patients were put out in the street to fend for themselves. Aside from the severe homeless problem it caused, what was once an extremely rare occurance, mass murders became more common at on average two a year since 1981. Coicidence? I think not.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No, it looks like you're trying to derail the thread. Just sayin.
    No, he's showing that Constitutional rights are always rights...not just when they are convienient.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The misinformation that has been reported about this deranged kid and his mother is just mind boggling. First, we hear that the mom was a teacher at the school and there conclusions made by the media that his motive was to get back at his mother by killing what she loved, teaching children. Then it turns she's not a teacher at all, instead she was a recently divorced, unemployed stay at home mom and she was home schooling Adam. Which is odd because other reports say he finished HS when he in the 10th grade and then there are reports of him attending high school and belonging to a computer science club and always carrying a briefcase clutched to his chest in the hallways.

    Then it's reported that Nancy Lanza was a gun enthusist who enjoyed taking Adam to target practice to teach him responsibility, but the police reports say there's little to no evidence of her going to any target ranges in the area. Then her ex-sister in law, Marsha Lanza says she had guns to defend herself, but she never felt under threat while adding that "It's the person who does the killing, not the gun."

    That last statement by the sister in law is very telling how that entire Lanza family must have thought about guns. But if those guns were not in the house that kid wouldn't have had the method by which to do what he did.
    Maybe, but he'd probably just have found another method.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Tetley View Post
    Single-issue obsessives add nothing to political discourse.

    He's not intentionally trolling when he tries to make it about abortion. To him and people like him, discussing any other issue derails discussion about abortion, which is the only thing that matters to them.
    He wasn't trying to "make it about abortion". He was illustrating the right to privacy, which is no less relevant to background checks as it is to the abortion debate.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, he's showing that Constitutional rights are always rights...not just when they are convienient.
    Funny, he didn't say a word about constitutional rights. But you did. Twenty children were just ruthlessly shot full of holes and all you care about is that someone might take away your toys??? Yes, there is a mental health problem in this country and it's called conservatism.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I am willing to place the parents comments into proper perspective of a grieving parent, and not one in the perspective in which we should make laws about.
    There is no rational law that would have stopped this from happening. None.

    There are ABSOLUTELY laws that would have stopped this from happening.....starting with a ban on asssault rifles.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Maybe, but he'd probably just have found another method.
    But he didn't so you can stop speculating.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There are ABSOLUTELY laws that would have stopped this from happening.....starting with a ban on asssault rifles.
    There is no law that could have prevented what happened.
    Period.
    Your assertion only turns law abiding citizens into criminals if they do not surrender their property.
    It would not stop what happened though.

    The preclusion of a certain type of weapon does not mean it would not have happened.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    He wasn't trying to "make it about abortion". He was illustrating the right to privacy, which is no less relevant to background checks as it is to the abortion debate.
    What, are you a mind reader now, too?

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