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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I can think of three nearby incidents off the top of my head where someone used a gun to defend themselves--a domestic abuse situation involving a drunk husband with a history of violence who was actively beating her until she got her hands on a gun in a drawer; somebody who found an intruder who had broken into their child's room in the middle of the night while their child was there asleep; and a man who walked into a situation where a bunch of thugs, at least 1 with a gun, were breaking into his closed business and then came after him when he showed up by coincidence. In which of those situations would you have just let the bad guys have their way when there was no apparent escape from the situation possible?
    All three of the situations you named showed responsible , honest people defending themselves AGAINST PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING WRONG
    My response good for them

    16 dead in Viginia tech who did nothing with gun legally bought
    26 DEAD IN CONN who did nothing with access to guns legally bought
    YOUR RESPONSE???
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    All three of the situations you named showed responsible , honest people defending themselves AGAINST PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING WRONG
    My response good for them

    16 dead in Viginia tech who did nothing with gun legally bought
    26 DEAD IN CONN who did nothing with access to guns legally bought
    YOUR RESPONSE???
    I'm all for denying gun ownership to those that have some legal indication that they are violent or a felon. Unfortunately with nut-jobs, there is no way of knowing they are a nut-job until they do something.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I'm all for denying gun ownership to those that have some legal indication that they are violent or a felon. Unfortunately with nut-jobs, there is no way of knowing they are a but-job until they do something.
    Really check on the background of the shooter of Virginia Tech.

    Check out some gun shows in the south.

    It would seem the people that sell guns have forgotten two words why and who.
    Odd, the Secretary of State is very through at such words.
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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    Really check on the background of the shooter of Virginia Tech.
    Unless they've committed a crime, there's nothing to check.

    Check out some gun shows in the south.

    It would seem the people that sell guns have forgotten two words why and who.
    Odd, the Secretary of State is very through at such words.
    As far as I know, the same background check and waiting times are required at gun shows as they are at dealers.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    All three of the situations you named showed responsible , honest people defending themselves AGAINST PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING WRONG
    My response good for them

    16 dead in Viginia tech who did nothing with gun legally bought
    26 DEAD IN CONN who did nothing with access to guns legally bought
    YOUR RESPONSE???
    My response is that a woman may have been beaten to death, who knows what would have happened to that child had the father not come in with a gun, and a businessman would have likely been pistol-whipped and robbed if not killed had they not had access to their guns. Differentiating between good owners and bad owners cannot be done if there are no owners which is what the left seems to want. The answer is not in taking away the guns but in weeding out the nutjobs--the other common denominator in this and VT.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    As I recall, a lot of people put certain rights to privacy/etc over the rights of little children to live, now. Roe v Wade.

    Just sayin'.
    Just being the devil's advocate here. The world would be a whole lot better if that Adam Lanza had been aborted. Hard but true.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Just being the devil's advocate here. The world would be a whole lot better if that Adam Lanza had been aborted. Hard but true.
    Can't argue with that, but then again it isn't something you can tell via ultrasound.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I work in a place that has secured entrances, including bullet resistant glass and armed police officers....and there are no young lives being protected there. There was some security at the school, but it failed. There was obviously an inadequate response to the breakdown in security. Taking guns away from the general public is not going to stop this senseless violence, so we should be looking at how to mitigate it, deter it, and respond to it in a manner which reduces the risk to the lives of the innocent.
    Hey. Ye of one clue. I have not advocated taking away anyone's guns. That you may work in a pillbox does not mean that such can possibly be the solution to our vulnerable schools. How long will that retrofit take ?

    There was no security breakdown in Newtown, btw. None.

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Hey. Ye of one clue. I have not advocated taking away anyone's guns. That you may work in a pillbox does not mean that such can possibly be the solution to our vulnerable schools. How long will that retrofit take ?
    Who cares how long it takes?

    There was no security breakdown in Newtown, btw. None.
    No breakdown huh? How did all those kids get shot?

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    Re: 26 reported killed in Newtown [W:72/89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    But I digress. This morning, one of the parents of one of the children that was brutally murdered by gunshot, through tears, talked about the need for Americans to take action and do something to prevent anther shooting tragedy. Are you prepared to call him a nut? Uncaring? Insincere?
    I am willing to place the parents comments into proper perspective of a grieving parent, and not one in the perspective in which we should make laws about.
    There is no rational law that would have stopped this from happening. None.

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