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Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

LaMidRighter said:
There's also something people may be missing, if B.C. becomes an OTC medicine it is no longer a prescription drug and could theoretically invalidate the mandate in Obamacare for insurance to have to provide it.
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Unintended conciquences are a Liberal's worst nightmare. :rofl
 
Gonzo Rodeo said:
But there are two issues. And secondly, what is the chance of someone drugging their significant other without her knowledge and/or consent, and how big of an issue could this be?
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Really? This is an issue? Since when? And how?

Isn't it an issue that somebody could lie and say they're on birth control, when they're really not?

It can go both ways, but honestly, is that really a major issue?
 
Dragonfly said:
Really? This is an issue? Since when? And how?

Isn't it an issue that somebody could lie and say they're on birth control, when they're really not?

It can go both ways, but honestly, is that really a major issue?
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It's not an issue right now, because no doctor is going to prescribe a man female hormone birth control. I'm just wondering if it could be an issue. Like I said, I'm on board with the idea of it being OTC, but this is a potential thing that could crop up. Just playing Devil's Advocate.

I've known several people here in my town that got "trapped" into having a baby with a girl that said she was on birth control when, in fact, she was not. Why couldn't this end up going the other way? You don't think it's plausible that a guy could covertly feed his regular booty call or non-serious girlfriend or even serious girlfriend/wife the pill just to ensure she doesn't get pregnant?
 
Gonzo Rodeo said:
It's not an issue right now, because no doctor is going to prescribe a man female hormone birth control. I'm just wondering if it could be an issue. Like I said, I'm on board with the idea of it being OTC, but this is a potential thing that could crop up. Just playing Devil's Advocate.

I've known several people here in my town that got "trapped" into having a baby with a girl that said she was on birth control when, in fact, she was not. Why couldn't this end up going the other way? You don't think it's plausible that a guy could covertly feed his regular booty call or non-serious girlfriend or even serious girlfriend/wife the pill just to ensure she doesn't get pregnant?
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It's my understanding that birth control pills don't work like that. They must be taken for a set period of time before they'll prevent pregnancy.

I seriously doubt there will be a plethora of men going out and buying BC on a regular basis so they can secretly "drug" their sex partners for weeks/months/years on end.

I don't think it's a valid concern.

But if a guy is that deceitful and ignorant he's got no business being a father at all, so it's a service to society that he doesn't get a girl pregnant.

I'm a big fan of more (safe) birth control being used - not less.
 
In most countries where birth control is legal it is available OTC. I'm actually impressed the medical community would recommend something that seems like it would go against their own financial interests. Kudos to them.
 
Dragonfly said:
It's my understanding that birth control pills don't work like that. They must be taken for a set period of time before they'll prevent pregnancy.

I seriously doubt there will be a plethora of men going out and buying BC on a regular basis so they can secretly "drug" their sex partners for weeks/months/years on end.

I don't think it's a valid concern.

But if a guy is that deceitful and ignorant he's got no business being a father at all, so it's a service to society that he doesn't get a girl pregnant.

I'm a big fan of more (safe) birth control being used - not less.
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I've seen the deceit with my own two eyes go the other way - a woman that intentionally gets pregnant while knowing the man involved does not want that to happen. While it definitely takes two to tango, if there is an assumption that birth control is being used (and I mean "assumption" in that the guy has been told birth control is being used) when it actually is not being used, that is fairly devious. And it happens all the time.

This scenario popped up on an episode of Scrubs, when Turk slipped the pill into chocolates for Carla because she was baby crazy and he didn't want to have one yet. It wasn't that big of a deal in the fictional TV world, but there are implications of messing with someone's hormones in the real, legal-based world.
 
kerussll said:
Who has blood tests done when they're on birth control? Never heard of that.
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have you heard about the lawsuits on Yaz? It was a nice BC product marketed as a safer alternative because it was a low dose BC pill. Intere3stingly enough the product causes high potassium levels and pancreas damage in a number of people. Damage which would have been preventable has the rise in potassium been caught by lazy doctors who consider it safe and therefor did not blood test the women. These products are hormone products and they do cause strain on many systems and should be accompanied with simple blood tests in order to make sure they are not causing damage.

Oh, and as for people who do, I did. Yes, i know about this problem because my doctor happened to catch it quickly and i just switched. Amazing how later i saw many women with stupid lazy doctors, and probably greedy insurance companies who didn't want to pay for a 50 dollar blood test, are now having health problems.
 
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