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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Hell. Let's make birth control 100% free for liberals, and 100% mandatory for welfare recipients. Need to thin these herds down some.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

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    Is it possible some conservatives are finally starting to get with the program?

    I guess we'll see.
    You best hope not, because if Conservatives take irrelevant crap like birth control and gay marriage off the table, the Democrats might start losing elections.
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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Birth control should be available to whomever wants it, and if making it OTC can cut costs (and it will, by a lot), then it's a good idea. But there are two issues. First, risk of stroke goes up on most forms of female hormone birth control. I personally know someone who had a stroke in her early 30s linked to her birth control. And secondly, what is the chance of someone drugging their significant other without her knowledge and/or consent, and how big of an issue could this be?
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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You best hope not, because if Conservatives take irrelevant crap like birth control and gay marriage off the table, the Democrats might start losing elections.
    There's also something people may be missing, if B.C. becomes an OTC medicine it is no longer a prescription drug and could theoretically invalidate the mandate in Obamacare for insurance to have to provide it.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Though I am glad for his openness on this issue that is actually not a great idea. Women on birth control should get regular blood tests to watch for things like potassium increases which come from certain forms of birth control. There are legitimate reasons for doctors to see you while you are taking hormones, which is essentially what birth control is. However, things like the morning after pill may be different and might be able to be done OTC.

    Bobby better watch out with all that talk. he might end up under the republican bus.
    Who has blood tests done when they're on birth control? Never heard of that.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    There's also something people may be missing, if B.C. becomes an OTC medicine it is no longer a prescription drug and could theoretically invalidate the mandate in Obamacare for insurance to have to provide it.
    Unintended conciquences are a Liberal's worst nightmare.
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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    But there are two issues. And secondly, what is the chance of someone drugging their significant other without her knowledge and/or consent, and how big of an issue could this be?

    Really? This is an issue? Since when? And how?

    Isn't it an issue that somebody could lie and say they're on birth control, when they're really not?

    It can go both ways, but honestly, is that really a major issue?

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Really? This is an issue? Since when? And how?

    Isn't it an issue that somebody could lie and say they're on birth control, when they're really not?

    It can go both ways, but honestly, is that really a major issue?
    It's not an issue right now, because no doctor is going to prescribe a man female hormone birth control. I'm just wondering if it could be an issue. Like I said, I'm on board with the idea of it being OTC, but this is a potential thing that could crop up. Just playing Devil's Advocate.

    I've known several people here in my town that got "trapped" into having a baby with a girl that said she was on birth control when, in fact, she was not. Why couldn't this end up going the other way? You don't think it's plausible that a guy could covertly feed his regular booty call or non-serious girlfriend or even serious girlfriend/wife the pill just to ensure she doesn't get pregnant?
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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    It's not an issue right now, because no doctor is going to prescribe a man female hormone birth control. I'm just wondering if it could be an issue. Like I said, I'm on board with the idea of it being OTC, but this is a potential thing that could crop up. Just playing Devil's Advocate.

    I've known several people here in my town that got "trapped" into having a baby with a girl that said she was on birth control when, in fact, she was not. Why couldn't this end up going the other way? You don't think it's plausible that a guy could covertly feed his regular booty call or non-serious girlfriend or even serious girlfriend/wife the pill just to ensure she doesn't get pregnant?
    It's my understanding that birth control pills don't work like that. They must be taken for a set period of time before they'll prevent pregnancy.

    I seriously doubt there will be a plethora of men going out and buying BC on a regular basis so they can secretly "drug" their sex partners for weeks/months/years on end.

    I don't think it's a valid concern.

    But if a guy is that deceitful and ignorant he's got no business being a father at all, so it's a service to society that he doesn't get a girl pregnant.

    I'm a big fan of more (safe) birth control being used - not less.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: Birth control should be over the counter

    In most countries where birth control is legal it is available OTC. I'm actually impressed the medical community would recommend something that seems like it would go against their own financial interests. Kudos to them.

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