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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I understand that the media has a job to do. Hell, I used to be one of those camera wielding crazies trying to get "the shot", in order to put food on the table.


    I think its just...I'm really angry. I hate every aspect of this story, more so than any other mass shooting, not even because it was a LOT closer to home...

    I hate the deliberate targeting of such young children...I hate the inevitable fall out of gun control that is likely to happen as a result...but I think that, more than anything, I hate that any form of retribution is eliminated. If he was alive, tied down in the woods, and someone handed me a gun, I would absolutely pull that trigger, no doubts in my mind about it at all. I want to kill or make suffer everyone that kid ever cared about. And I can't. So my hate has no where to go. I've been pretty snappy since yesterday.
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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    I think that you grossly misread my post. I noted that he was understandably dry. That was my choice of words. What I found absurd was the Press trying to squeeze some sound-bite of outrage, or cause him to break down on camera. Did you watch the video of the press conference to better know the context ?

    Try reading, and watching, again, without being such a dick.
    Ah. You see... missing a single word changed that entire interpretation.

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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I understand that the media has a job to do. Hell, I used to be one of those camera wielding crazies trying to get "the shot", in order to put food on the table.
    Just because they're getting paid to do it doesn't mean they should do it. It's despicable.

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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    What a mess. I watched to Medical Examiner's press conference today. The Press tried every angle they could to wring emotion out of him. Really stupid questions posed to a very clearly, and understandably, dry individual. It was pathetic.

    I saw that press conference too with the medical examiner. It was kind of a bizarre interview. There were a couple spots where he had this quarky little nervous laugh. One when mentioning this was only the second time in his career he has talked on camera and the other time when he was talking about his name and his grandfather. In light of having 20 young dead bodies laying only yards away it just seemed weird for him to be laughing.

    But to be fair. I think having just done autopsies on 7 little bodies one would be so tightly wounded up that the escape of the nervous laughter could be a release of stress.

    What a tough job. I also feel for the first responders who had to enter those rooms and find the carnage. I have no idea what kind of private hell they are going through.

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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Rumors attribute this quote to Morgan Freeman:

    "You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

    It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
    people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

    CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

    You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news."
    He probably didn't say it, but whoever did deserves a round of applause.

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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzidoesit View Post
    If you can afford guns you should be required to have a safe place to keep them in. Is that asking too much in this day and age?
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    Is this really the solution in the USA?

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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    I want to take a timeout from the arguments and debates to post a picture here...

    In loving memory of the young lives taken far too soon...my heart aches

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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    What what through whose heads? That crazy people will do crazy things that cause great harm?
    Perhaps the unintended side effects of treating youngsters with heavy psychoactive agents?

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    Re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Maybe gun-haters should require everyone to do what my father-in-law did. His house has a concrete stairway going into his finished basement. He built a room underneath it. Three walls of concrete, a steel door and the whole thing hidden behind paneling. Room enough for his 30 or so firearms. If you didn't know it was there you'd never find it and if you found it, you'd have a hell of a time getting into it. But then, he's a carpenter and he did most of the work building the house. Didn't cost him much extra but his own labor.

    The gun-haters would probably be comfortable requiring all houses to cost thousands more...just in case someone wanted to buy a gun.
    I want a vault room in the basement also. I don't plan on keeping the current house I own though, maybe my next house.

    But, no matter whether it is a gun safe or a vault, unless I had some reason to doubt the mental stability of my relatives, why would I keep anything away from them? If I had children and they were old/mature enough to handle firearms by themselves, why would I lock the firearms away from my children, unless they demonstrated mental problems? If they did demonstrate mental problems, why would I not get them the help they need? If they are 18 or over, sure they can refuse that help, in which case, yeah, it's time to change the combo on the safe.
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