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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a failure of training not a failure of gun laws.
    So then you agree that in order to possess a gun you should have to be licensed first - prove that you are trained in how to use it....like a car?
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    Tell us:
    What sort of "common sense gun control" would have stopped this?
    Getting licensed to own and use a gun by passing a "road" and "written" test like you have to drive a car.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    This sort of child massacres happened during Serbian occupation of Dardania in 1999. To think that the same would happen to a civilized country as well seems very unsettling!

    This is not the first time shootings occur in schools neither. What is it with USA and School shootings anyway!?
    You mean it has happened in a civilized countries as well? I guess that is true; it happened in Norway about a year ago and in Scotland.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    So do you want to turn your head or say "everybody makes mistakes" with this type of crap? For someone who shoots a bunch of innocent children, you're damn right I have no problem with a mass of people giving the shooter what they deserve. Heck, even in this case where the shooter is dead, he should be hung outside like a piñata for the fathers to take a baseball bat to.
    Fortunately our society is civilized enough to not react with ultra violence in response to mass murders. No one is suggesting that the killer should not be punished "TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW" but not to the "FULLEST EXTENT OF THE MOB."
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    Fortunately our society is civilized enough to not react with ultra violence in response to mass murders. No one is suggesting that the killer should not be punished "TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW" but not to the "FULLEST EXTENT OF THE MOB."
    IMO, "the fullest extent of the law" from the laws currently in place amounts to a pussy slap on the wrist instead of a punch in the face by the iron fist of justice.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    IMO, "the fullest extent of the law" from the laws currently in place amounts to a pussy slap on the wrist instead of a punch in the face by the iron fist of justice.
    It's certainly your right to disagree with the laws in place just as it is OK for me to disagree with you that extreme mob violence is a solution to anything at anytime for any reason. Civilization does not advance with anarchism which is what you're suggesting.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Although all the children lived, there is something inside some people that leads them to attack children. 22 children slashed with a knife in China. There are stories like this all over the world all the time now. What is inside some men that lead them to attack children?

    In China, victims in school attack survive - latimes.com

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    It's certainly your right to disagree with the laws in place just as it is OK for me to disagree with you that extreme mob violence is a solution to anything at anytime for any reason. Civilization does not advance with anarchism which is what you're suggesting.
    No, anarchism is not what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting a justice system which actually implements punishments which fit the crimes. Just like decisions of a suspect repaying money they stole from a victim, rapists should get a metal pipe up their rear ends, assault offenders should take free shots from their victims and murderers should be killed by the loved ones of the victims.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Although all the children lived, there is something inside some people that leads them to attack children. 22 children slashed with a knife in China. There are stories like this all over the world all the time now. What is inside some men that lead them to attack children?

    In China, victims in school attack survive - latimes.com
    Why is it always MEN who do these acts?
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    No, anarchism is not what I'm suggesting. I'm suggesting a justice system which actually implements punishments which fit the crimes. Just like decisions of a suspect repaying money they stole from a victim, rapists should get a metal pipe up their rear ends, assault offenders should take free shots from their victims and murderers should be killed by the loved ones of the victims.
    That sounds like an eye for an eye and there are UNCIVILIZED countries that cut off the hand of a thief, the genitals of a woman who has pre-marital sex (or even who gets raped) etc. Your idea is such a slippery slope and it does promote mob violence. To me you're asking us to go back to the Middle Ages to punish crimes. Needless to say your suggestion will never, ever even be discussed in any serious government discussion on the penal system, thank God.
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