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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    And there are other studies (Lott, Kleck) that show the exact opposite.... but all studies, yours or mine, are often suspect due to pre-existing agendas.

    You ignore the fact that many other nations have homicide rates far higher than our own with only a fraction of the gun ownership rates.


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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    LOL...yeah....3rd world states.

    FFS
    Use some logic. If you want your kid to die while you abide by some bull**** whining ninny sissypants rule, go ahead.

    What a ****ing useless society when it can't use simple logic not only to protect kids, but keep free people armed and safe. Not having guns at school at all will simply keep them what they are: A target rich environment for cowards who want to kill someone

    Of course there's a big "Weapon Free Zone" sign on the school. That sure helps

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    I spend at least several hours a week during the winter months in a big gun shop because its the range where I shoot. And gun sales are very very high right now. The election of Obama caused huge numbers of guns to be purchased just as the clinton gun laws did. And there is a gun show in Cincinnati near that range tomorrow and I expect large crowds because people understand that the hysterical left as well as the machiavellian control freaks love disasters like this mass murder massacre to fuel their anti gun owner jihads. Yet its true, with more and more guns bought by honest people and more and more of us carrying concealed weapons, the murder or gun violence rate has not increased

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Use some logic. If you want your kid to die while you abide by some bull**** whining ninny sissypants rule, go ahead.

    What a ****ing useless society when it can't use simple logic not only to protect kids, but keep free people armed and safe. Not having guns at school at all will simply keep them what they are: A target rich environment for cowards who want to kill someone

    Of course there's a big "Weapon Free Zone" sign on the school. That sure helps
    Yes, thats the answer...INCREASE the availability of weapons....in areas where kids are!

    BRILLIANT!!!
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    I am going to ask a serious question here. Eight adults along with 20 of their very defenceless charges are dead. I know they didnt have a gun in the school to defend themselves. Did ANY official or teacher in that school MAKE ANY attempt to DEFEND their charges or themselves regardless of their lack of firearms. I learned a LONG time ago when I was much younger that when in death ground there is only one thing to do. FIGHT. HARD. Are people becoming sheep now? Do they not know to defend themselves when in mortal danger? I find it distubing to say the least the ADULTS did very little to defend their charges. Maybe people think I am nuts for brinnging this up, but when people are dying about you it might be a good time figure out how to foil your killers plans or at least put up a fight to maybe encourage them to find easier pickings, there things other than guns that can be improvised into a weopon. Maybe these things occured here. It doesnt seem like it though. I am dismayed at how easy it is for someone to do these mass killings and few if any respond with a fight reflex. Why is it that people dont fight?
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yes, thats the answer...INCREASE the availability of weapons....in areas where kids are!BRILLIANT!!!
    you lefties continue to want environments where the only person armed is someone intending and able to massacre innocents.

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    I am going to ask a serious question here. Eight adults along with 20 of their very defenceless charges are dead. I know they didnt have a gun in the school to defend themselves. Did ANY official or teacher in that school MAKE ANY attempt to DEFEND their charges or themselves regardless of their lack of firearms. I learned a LONG time ago when I was much younger that when in death ground there is only one thing to do. FIGHT. HARD. Are people becoming sheep now? Do they not know to defend themselves when in mortal danger? I find it distubing to say the least the ADULTS did very little to defend their charges. Maybe people think I am nuts for brinnging this up, but when people are dying about you it might be a good time figure out how to foil your killers plans or at least put up a fight to maybe encourage them to find easier pickings, there things other than guns that can be improvised into a weopon. Maybe these things occured here. It doesnt seem like it though. I am dismayed at how easy it is for someone to do these mass killings and few if any respond with a fight reflex. Why is it that people dont fight?
    People are being programmed to be followers, minus critical thinking. It's tragic to think that the adults in this situation were so woefully unprepared. But who is to say any of us would have or could have acted differently. I am angered, but mostly still in shock. I'm still not sure how to process this news.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    LOL...yeah....3rd world states.

    FFS
    Actually, gun ownership, by percentage was higher in the late 1800s, early 1900s before the adoption of laws not stating that all male citizens were expected to participate in militias. The incidence, contrary to Western Movies, of violent crime was at a very low point. Almost immediately after the passage of that law, violent crime exploded in America.

    So, we have historical evidence that when gun ownership was high, violent crime was low, as gun ownership decreased, violent crime increased. Over the last century, violent crime has not decreased to the level it was in 1900, nor has gun ownership (by percentage, not actual numbers) reached the same level.
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