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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Which is why we encourage well-informed and safe gun ownership, and the use of safes and such to secure guns not in one's immediate possession.



    Of course, you can't make anything proof against determined intent to harm... and he could have just as easily used a homemade bomb or a sword bought on Ebay and killed about as many.
    I totally agree. I believe in it so much, that I support/advocate including gun safety in schools at a minimum of three different levels. Elementary, Junior High and High School.

    Thankfully, he, nor the others who have committed such crimes have chosen to use explosive properly. If the ones who did build explosives would of used them grenade fashion, things would of been phenomenally worse. And if they had taken terrorist actions in the use of explosives, it would be even worse than that. Most people just do not understand that a gun is a very inefficient way to kill large numbers of people. More efficient than a knife, sword or axe, but still grossly inefficient.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Actually it has happened. Long Island Ferry, early 80s as I recall. Was much talked about problem in the Phillipines in the 1970s.

    Then there's the guy in Atlanta that killed 4 with a hammer.


    It isn't the tool, it is the murderer.
    oh...."4"...with a "hammer"

    Yeah...

    pfffft.....cough
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    cough cough....Increases in gun ownership lead to a higher gun-homicide rate and legislation allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons does not reduce crime, according to a recent NBER Working Paper by Mark Duggan. After peaking in 1993, gun homicides in the United States dropped 36 percent by 1998, while non-gun homicides declined only 18 percent. In that same period, the fraction of households with at least one gun fell from more than 42 percent to less than 35 percent. Duggan finds that about one-third of the gun-homicide decline since 1993 is explained by the fall in gun ownership. The largest declines occur in areas with the largest reductions in firearm ownership.
    sounds like an outcome based propaganda piece. over 12 million more guns were sold as a result of the clinton anti gun agenda and then the Obama election. and yet accidental deaths have decreased along with crime. I know dozens of people who have bought guns and deny owning them when asked.and what your idiotic study ignores is the difference between legal gun ownership and illegal gun ownership

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Frack.

    I swore when I logged on this afternoon that I wasn't going to get dragged into a back-and-forth BS with anti-gunners, and it happened anyway. I wanted to respect this terrible tragedy and allow the victims and their families some dignity... and I got sucked into this horse shyte.


    Damn it. I'm done with this crap for the night, I'm not getting drawn into any more of this hysteria.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    And there are other studies (Lott, Kleck) that show the exact opposite.... but all studies, yours or mine, are often suspect due to pre-existing agendas.

    You ignore the fact that many other nations have homicide rates far higher than our own with only a fraction of the gun ownership rates.


    Apparently Gimmesometruth can't handle the truth.
    LOL...yeah....3rd world states.

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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Frack.

    I swore when I logged on this afternoon that I wasn't going to get dragged into a back-and-forth BS with anti-gunners, and it happened anyway. I wanted to respect this terrible tragedy and allow the victims and their families some dignity... and I got sucked into this horse shyte.


    Damn it. I'm done with this crap for the night, I'm not getting drawn into any more of this hysteria.
    cough...
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Oh...I thought it was " she was not willing to stop him"Keep on modifying what you tell yourself.
    I guess when standard leftwing paradigms fail to be able to justify more gun control lies despite having such a juicy tragedy for which liberals can use to bash gun owners, you are gonna be upset.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    oh...."4"...with a "hammer"

    Yeah...

    pfffft.....cough

    Bud, you're pissing me off. If you want to call me a liar why don't you come to my mother****ing house and say it to my face.



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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    sounds like an outcome based propaganda piece.
    Indeed.
    Every year, the number of guns in the US increases by millions, and yet the number of gun-related murders remains nearly constant -- proof that more guns does not equal more gun-related homicde.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Bud, you're pissing me off. If you want to call me a liar why don't you come to my mother****ing house and say it to my face.
    He'd be calling the kettle black.

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