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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Maybe if these madhouses didn't lobotomize so many of their patients and build their facilities over underground railroads they would still exist today. (referring to Northern State facility in Washington State)
    I do believe mental illness has been marginalized by society. Some see it as shirking responsibility, like combat fatigue was considered malingering. Some as a dodge from criminal penalties, or coddled with three hots and a cot.

    Rather than reform our system, Reagan used closing many Institutions to pander to his base.

    I don't believe using one Hospital to bad mouth the rest of the system is a good argument.

    But back to the basic point of where do we draw the line on committing people or denying them firearm ownership- just who decides and what criteria is to be used?

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Well, I see it as a massively unanswered question. It's obvious the real reason that this stuff happens is because crazy people are crazy and etc. and we could easily go forth and debate cultural morality and the effects of religion and education and so on. However, which is more realistic and immediately effective? Somehow curbing culture or doing something to curb access to guns for crazy people?
    Chicago shows us neither are immediately effective

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    How do these parents not realize they have raised a sociopath?
    A very good question. Maybe they did realize and tried to do something about it, but there was only so much they could do. Or on the other hand, I suppose parents don't always see their own children in the most objective of lights.

    Another thing to consider is that "sociopath" is a colloquial term for Antisocial Personality Disorder, which isn't diagnosable until age 18 (at the earliest). The shooter was young, right? These personality traits may have emerged somewhat recently. Who knows?

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    He killed 27. Sorry to hear. Still against gun control laws? Is there a death sentence in that state?
    CT law forbids the death sentence.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by RepublicanMcDuc View Post
    You're allowing your emotions to get the better of you. Your past few posts haven't been very logical.

    There are many good, normal gun owners out there. They don't spend their days thinking of how they want to use their weapons. The Hollywood portrayal of gun owners is far from accurate.
    Whoa, man, thanks for that. I have quite the PTSD you know...
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    On the other hand, "sociopath" is a colloquial term for Antisocial Personality Disorder, which isn't diagnosable until age 18 (at the earliest). The shooter was young, right? These personality traits may have emerged somewhat recently.

    And then there's the fact that there's only so much one can do. Maybe the parents of the shooter had tried to get him help. We don't really know at this point.
    I don't think you're right here. Sociopathic behavior starts in childhood. Proven. Fire starters. Injuring siblings. Torturing/killing animals. Enduring physical/sexual abuse. This guy didn't act out of a vacuum. It will be discovered this young man had many issues that were either ignored -- or that we have no way to address until something horrible happens.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

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    Or, perhaps, we need to evolve our culture into one which believes no one needs to own a firearm at all other than police and military people.[/QUOTE]

    this sets up for a potentially tyrannical government and is not a good idea

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    No they pull a knife
    It takes a lot of balls and strength to stab someone and smell their last breath.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    Chicago shows us neither are immediately effective
    So what do we do?


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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    It takes a lot of balls and strength to stab someone and smell their last breath.
    Or indifference for life.
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