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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by RepublicanMcDuc View Post
    You're allowing your emotions to get the better of you. Your past few posts haven't been very logical.

    There are many good, normal gun owners out there. They don't spend their days thinking of how they want to use their weapons. The Hollywood portrayal of gun owners is far from accurate.
    The Hollywood portrayal of guns is inaccurate period. The amount of misinformation is staggering.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    So...you blame the gun for that event and not the perpetrator?
    I blame human nature and the psychology of people who think they need to own a gun. you don't buy a gun because it looks nice on your coffe mug tree, you buy a gun to kill a person. I'm sick of this people kill people B.S.... No ****?! That's why they bought a gun DUH!
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    I have a solution. Lower the legal gun owning age to 7 years old. If those kids had guns, they could have defended themselves.

    **sarcasm off**

    Really messed up situation. No amount of gun control will stop people from obtaining guns in a country where so many people own them. That is where Mexico gets all their guns. From us!!! Someone, somewhere, legally bought the gun, and then it eventually got sold to someone illegally. It is not possible to control the illegal sale of guns, only the legal sale of guns. That is where the changes need to be made. If we want to maintain our constitutional right to bear arms, then the punishment for the illegal sale of arms should be one of the most severe crimes you could possibly commit. If that weapon is used in a murder or shooting, the person who sold that weapon illegally should be charged with identical charges as the killer, along with charged with selling firearms illegally. We do this with DUI's already in many states. Where the passenger or even the bar can be charged or sued for the actions of the driver.

    Or, perhaps, we need to evolve our culture into one which believes no one needs to own a firearm at all other than police and military people.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by GmH View Post
    The only solution to this problem is to make the public immune to violence so we dont feel so bad when these things happen. We need more Violent Movies, Violent Games and TV. Forget this Frankenstein stuff, we need more chainsaw massacres, we need more arms and heads cut off. Violence, Violence, Violence, We need to eat drink and sleep Violence, We need it in every house and around every corner. We need to start when the children are young.....start with their gameboys... I know people say this does effect people, but I think we just need to try harder...more Violence!!!
    I don't buy the "violence in the media/entertainment industry" argument either. The Lone Ranger used violence. Bugs Bunny was violent. The Three Stooges were violent.

    It isn't violence in the media that has made things worse but, rather, the fact that the consequences of violence are no longer expressed. It is the violence itself that is glorified and the results of that violence are generally ignored.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Quoted for truth...
    William S. Burroughs shot his wife by 'accident' at a party in Texas then ran to Mexico to avoid prosecution.

    And then he became quite the lover of young latino boys.

    That's the truth....
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    I blame human nature and the psychology of people who think they need to own a gun. you don't buy a gun because it looks nice on your coffe mug tree, you buy a gun to kill a person. I'm sick of this people kill people B.S.... No ****?! That's why they bought a gun DUH!
    Sounds like you have a lot of emotional energy built up around this. However, keep in mind you are in the Breaking News area of this forum.

    Might I suggest the following sub-forum for you instead?

    Gun Control - DebatePolitics

    95 threads in there, all about this topic. Go to town, man. Let it all out. That's where you need to be.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    Yeah, right! Imagine how many fewer people would be dead in the USA if we had gun control laws like England does? In England if lovers get in a fight one of them doesn't pull out a gun and kill the other one. In England if people get in a fight on the street they don't pull out a gun and kill. The amount of real people that would not be killed each year if we had England's gun control laws is HUGE.
    No they pull a knife

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    How do these parents not realize they have raised a sociopath?

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Saboteur View Post
    You could still kill aiming for the legs. And I don't believe you, if you hope to never kill someone then why do you have a gun? Protection? From what? Someone else with a gun? good luck with that.
    Wether you choose to believe me or not I speak the truth. I was in boyscouts.


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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    He killed 27. Sorry to hear. Still against gun control laws? Is there a death sentence in that state?

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