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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    AR15 firing 223 rounds involved per CBS citing the AP

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    So? Does it matter how you die and by what method? Norway could be and has been invaded and occupied through its entire history, the US, never, and never could be. We have guns!
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    Really? Really? I studied geography and history in school and in college and I was taught that countries invading each other in Europe is not at all similar or comparable to the US being invaded.

    The BS argument that because we have more than 1 gun for every American keeps us safe is just that, pure, stinky BS.
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    Wonder if this will see armed and trained teachers in schools now

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Mt city has has an armed cop at every school since sometime around Columbine anytime the school is unlocked (night events, after-school, etc). Adding probably between 60-80 on duty new cops just to hit your magic number might be a little pricey. It would be cheaper just to arm teachers/staff.
    I agree. But you have some pretty ruthless kids that would try anything to get their hands on the guns. I think arming teachers is the best solution also in the end but too many people would focus on tragedies when they come around. (like a teacher going bonkers and killing the class clown, or gun theft) I really think that if teachers had the option to be armed (at this place and abound) then people like this would be stopped much earlier in their rampages.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    the gun control question is considered tasteless
    It's tasteless while the bodies of murdered children are still warm. The sense of propriety in our society is absolutely for ****.
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    I wonder if the shooter was a pot smoker. Certainly that connection would be more important to focus on than guns.

    Something in his mind made him do it, not the inert piece of metal in his hand.
    Yeah, you might be right! We hear about pot-crazed murders everyday.....NOT! Pot is to murder as guns are to fantasy nirvana.....
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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    If these kids would have been a few years younger and still barely in the womb, or just having been birthed by accident in an abortion clinic, President Obama and most of his followers would have supported their murder

    Guns aren't the problem

    Culture is the problem

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    England and America are two wildly different realities much like Japan and America. In both England and Japan gun ownership was never as broad as it is in America. Both countries were never operated under a dictatorship either and I think you'd agree we'd like to keep it that way?

    Is there any real solution - yes - I think there are many real solutions. When someone suggests a campus is "gun free" what they really mean is a target that can't shoot back. We depend on unionized law enforcement instead of neighbors and ourselves for security; dependence on the state/government instead of ourselves. We addres those we will reduce these horrible kind of events.


    Quote Originally Posted by jakiejakester View Post
    I think the reality is that there isn't any real solution that can prevent insanity like this. What type of person can not only consider this to be a choice but actually freaks out and actually does this?

    I'm curious how you explain the differences in gun deaths in England vs. America?

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    A society where this happens has some serious under lying issues.

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    re: Two Gunmen at Newtown, Conn., Elementary School Shooting, One Dead [W:449/490/584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    If these kids would have been a few years younger and still barely in the womb, or just having been birthed by accident in an abortion clinic, President Obama and most of his followers would have supported their murder

    Guns aren't the problem

    Culture is the problem
    Seriously?

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