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Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

Sig said:
At this point, I insist that you stop typing and start reading. You are so damn ignorant of the subject we are discussing that I feel like I am trying to describe plaid to someone who was born without eyes.

Be advised: Our discussion is over until you educate yourself enough to respond with even the remotest hint that you have a grip on the topic at hand. Until then, please go away. You are wasting your time; and more importantly, you are wasting my time.
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:lamo So you concede then....good for you.
 
Excon said:
:doh
Holy ****! I guess we have to do this again.
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Jesus....

You said: "Your[sic] overlooking my points."
See!
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I told you I didn't, since I placed them in their proper perspective of having nothing to do with Tony hitting Crowder.
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My points had nothing to do with the actual hitting!
My points had to do with Crowders presence and an account from a eyewitness on what Crowder was doing before the actual punching!
I never said anything about Crowder and Tony etc! You keep on bringing it up like i did or something! This isnt simply just about the punching!



Sorry you don't seem to understand that, as it also has nothing to do with you agreeing with me or not.
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Then what the **** is your point!?


You had no points relevant to Tony hitting Crowder which "IS" what this thread is about.
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This thread is about the incident! Before, during, and after!
 
Sig said:
What do you not understand? This thread is indeed about Tony hitting Chowder.

So what is your point?

How about if you get back on topic?

Is it really your contention Chowder wasn't asking for it, that he did not, in fact, provoke a fight?
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So sad. Purposely misspelling Crowder's name. Grow up!

This thread is about Tony hitting Crowder, not the legislation. What do you not understand about that?

The video evidence clearly shows that Crowder did not provoke a fight with Tony.

So how about getting back on topic, as this topic is not about the legislation. You can start another one to discuss such, and vent your childish anger and hatred there.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
My points had nothing to do with the actual hitting!
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Right! That is why you are "off topic". Why are you now just realizing that?


TheDemSocialist said:
My points had to do with Crowders presence and an account from a eyewitness on what Crowder was doing before the actual punching!
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Right! That is why you are "off topic". Because Tony's hitting of Crowder has nothing to do with those things.


TheDemSocialist said:
I never said anything about Crowder and Tony etc! You keep on bringing it up like i did or something!
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I keep pointing out that it is why you are off topic. Duh!



TheDemSocialist said:
This isnt simply just about the punching!
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"Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan"
Apparently it is. :doh


TheDemSocialist said:
Then what the **** is your point!?
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That you are "off topic". How many times does it need to be pointed out to you, huh?



TheDemSocialist said:
This thread is about the incident! Before, during, and after!
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That is where you are wrong.
Read the title, as that is what the topic is about.
It is specifically about Tony hitting Crowder.
 
Excon said:
The video evidence clearly shows that Crowder did not provoke a fight with Tony.

So how about getting back on topic, as this topic is not about the legislation. You can start another one to discuss such, and vent your childish anger and hatred there.
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You keep repeating the same LIE over and over again, as if you believe that, by repeating it enough times, it will somehow make it true.

Chowder had no reason to be there, except to act as a mouthpiece for the AFP's program of public deceit. Violence comes in many forms. Chowder clearly threw the first punch by asking the stupid and incendiary rhetorical question: "Why do you oppose Right to Work?" He might just as well have asked "Why don't you all go home and f*ck your mother?" He asked for it, and he got it; and if he keeps it up, he will likely get it again, only much worse.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
My points had to do with Crowders presence and an account from a eyewitness on what Crowder was doing before the actual punching!
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Ok, what was that? Asking questions about RTW? And why they were there? See, most rational people getting a question like that either give an answer that the interviewer that they don't like can't use, or they walk away. Crowder wasn't doing anything that any number of DalilyKOS, DemoUnderground hacks didn't do during the TEAparty rallies, yet I didn't see any TP people punching out those people, why is that do you think?

Could it be because the leftist thugs act like children when they don't get their way?

See, I thought that the left were supposed to be these uber tolerant models of peace, joy, and love? Instead what we get is patch wearing bots assaulting someone asking questions, and attacking those with different views than they have with destruction of property, intimidation, and violence...And in here we have those mouth foaming members not only advocating the violence and cheering it on, but blaming the victim of that violence instead of acting like adults and condemning it. how sad.
 
Sig said:
You keep repeating the same LIE over and over again, as if you believe that, by repeating it enough times, it will somehow make it true.
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That's interesting since between you and I, you are the only one telling untruths.

Go figure. Wonders never cease. :slapme:


Sig said:
Chowder had no reason to be there, except to act as a mouthpiece for the AFP's program of public deceit. Violence comes in many forms. Chowder clearly threw the first punch by asking the stupid and incendiary rhetorical question: "Why do you oppose Right to Work?" He might just as well have asked "Why don't you all go home and f*ck your mother?" He asked for it, and he got it; and if he keeps it up, he will likely get it again, only much worse.
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Wrong!
He had every right to be there in support of the legislation.
And again you are WRONG!
That is not inciting anything and is not the reason Tony hit Crowder.
And it is off topic.
And it is not asking for anything either.
Only those who believe it is ok to act out violently would think so.

And Tony doesn't even appear to be smart enough to form a logical opinion on the subject of RTW and is only following along like a little Union lemming.

So if Tony acted out violently because of the reason you proffer, he is in the wrong and most definitely will be Prosecuted.
End of story.

Or you can get back on topic and watch the videos and see that Crowder did not provoke Tony's assault in any way.
 
Excon said:
He had every right to be there in support of the legislation.
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The legislation is wrong and violent and deceitful, and destructive of everything for which working men and women fought and died over decades of struggle against an oppressive and exploitative upper class elite.

Ergo, Chowder was wrong for supporting such legislation, but he was even more wrong for conspiring to deliberately deceive the American people.
 
Sig said:
The legislation is wrong and violent and deceitful, and destructive of everything for which working men and women fought and died over decades of struggle against an oppressive and exploitative upper class elite.

Ergo, Chowder was wrong for supporting such legislation, but he was even more wrong for conspiring to deliberately deceive the American people.
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1. How is the legislation 'violent'?... People are violent.

2. Even if what you are regurgitating from the communist pamphlet you read it from was true, It does not give you the right to physically attack anyone. This is how children act out when they don't get their way......Grow up.
 
Sig said:
The legislation is wrong and violent and deceitful, and destructive of everything for which working men and women fought and died over decades of struggle against an oppressive and exploitative upper class elite.

Ergo, Chowder was wrong for supporting such legislation, but he was even more wrong for conspiring to deliberately deceive the American people.
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And again.
This thread is about Tony hitting Crowder. Not the legislation or your opinion on it.

Stick to the topic.
 
Sig said:
You keep repeating the same LIE over and over again, as if you believe that, by repeating it enough times, it will somehow make it true.

Chowder had no reason to be there, except to act as a mouthpiece for the AFP's program of public deceit. Violence comes in many forms. Chowder clearly threw the first punch by asking the stupid and incendiary rhetorical question: "Why do you oppose Right to Work?" He might just as well have asked "Why don't you all go home and f*ck your mother?" He asked for it, and he got it; and if he keeps it up, he will likely get it again, only much worse.
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Asking a question is not an excuse for violent response. Its called assault and its punishable. Your response is emotional, political hackery.

You are literally buying into the ends justifies the means for your fellow political travelers. IE you have no real argument, you are engaging in covering because the guy is on your side of the political fence. Emotionally dishonest argument is dishonest...and emotional.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Asking a question is not an excuse for violent response. Its called assault and its punishable. Your response is emotional, political hackery.

You are literally buying into the ends justifies the means for your fellow political travelers. IE you have no real argument, you are engaging in covering because the guy is on your side of the political fence. Emotionally dishonest argument is dishonest...and emotional.
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Is it your contention that the union guy just threw himself to the ground then?
 
poweRob said:
Is it your contention that the union guy just threw himself to the ground then?
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It's not mine.
But we can clearly see it wasn't because of Crowder, or of any questions he had asked.
 
Excon said:
It's not mine.
But we can clearly see it wasn't because of Crowder, or of any questions he had asked.
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No you can't, but you will continue to say so.
 
poweRob said:
No you can't, but you will continue to say so.
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Yes we can, as Crowder is facing away from Tony as Tony falls to his side.
Their positions make it impossible for Crowder to have pushed Tony to the ground.

Tony fell. Why, we do not know. But it is clear that it was not because of Crowder.
 
Excon said:
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Yes we can, as Crowder is facing away from Tony as Tony falls to his side.
Their positions make it impossible for Crowder to have pushed Tony to the ground.

Tony fell. Why, we do not know. But it is clear that it was not because of Crowder.
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You are blind and you are lying to yourself.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Has the union thug made any allegation that he was assaulted first? If not you are just making up lies to suit your world view.
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That is another weird thing about this.
Of all the camera coverage by both sides, where is the footage showing that something else actually happened.

I would say that it doesn't exist.
 
Fox News.... Enough Said.
 
Excon said:
Wrong!
As this actually has nothing to do with Fox News.
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Its Moreover where the account has come from, in the UK fox news doesnt have the greatest coverage from what we get about it from US tv. Isnt it a Republican leaning corporation? (Republicans and trade unionists...)
 
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