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Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

TaraAnne said:
Excon,

The video is edited and Crowder has not been honest about what he was doing. It is not the first time a Breitbart lacky has been dishonest, niether is it the first time a Republican Comedy Channel (Fox News) contributer been caught in a massive lie!
Yeah? Ok? NOT!
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And again. The video is not edited at the portion in question.
Do you not understand that?
AT THE PORTION IN QUESTION IT IS NOT EDITED.
Do you not understand what the portion in question is?

And yes Crowder has been honest about his intentions.
He went there to document the known behavior of this particular subspecies.
He didn't provoke.

We can clearly see that Crowder did not swing on the guy.
We can clearly see that the Union Members were trying to intimidate Crowder.
Try to keep up.


In addition, since Moot didn't provide any substance to her claim, maybe you will provided some for your claim.
Prove he is a Breitbart lacky.
 
Grant said:
In many cases their pay will be lowered to reflect the value of their work. if others are worth more they will be paid more.

Union workers are not defining their worth because few people are identical in their value. Instead they are extorting what they as a group feel they can get away with and thus skew the marketplace. They also have a closed shop where anyone who wants to work must pay the Union bosses, and of course Unions are a very big, and corrupt, business..

I have workers and I pay them what I feel they are worth to me and they are happy with that. It is not to my advantage to pay them less than they are worth because they'll take their value somewhere else, and good people are very hard to find. Even in bad times they're paid because I've invested in them as human beings as well. I believe most employers share the same atthitude, at least in smaller businesses like mine.
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That's a very subjective opinion. And you may over estimate the happiness of your employees. But, I'm sure a lot of workers re saying, "Yes, please pay me less because I'm not worth much."
 
Excon said:
And again. The video is not edited at the portion in question.
Do you not understand that?
AT THE PORTION IN QUESTION IT IS NOT EDITED.
Do you not understand what the portion in question is?

And yes Crowder has been honest about his intentions.
He went there to document the known behavior of this particular subspecies.
He didn't provoke.

We can clearly see that Crowder did not swing on the guy.
We can clearly see that the Union Members were trying to intimidate Crowder.
Try to keep up.


In addition, since Moot didn't provide any substance to her claim, maybe you will provided some for your claim.
Prove he is a Breitbart lacky.
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The video that Moot has posted show clearly Crowder stand over him when he is getting up that is what I am going by. That is what she spent and hour trying to explain to you. The video has come under scutiny by both Fox News and sevral other outlets. My concern her is that no charges have been filed in regards to the assult. While he may or may not work for Brietbart, he defanitly used their tactics. That I will correct myself on. This is more wait and see as far as any charges that are going to be pressed. One thing is for sure he was in more than a few people faces. Fair enough? The vidoe is clips of specific instances not the whole video. There are more than a few camera angle on this as well.
 
Boo Radley said:
That's a very subjective opinion. And you may over estimate the happiness of your employees. But, I'm sure a lot of workers re saying, "Yes, please pay me less because I'm not worth much."
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You have no idea what you're talking about, which has become a consistency on this thread.
 
TaraAnne said:
The video that Moot has posted show clearly Crowder stand over him when he is getting up that is what I am going by. That is what she spent and hour trying to explain to you. The video has come under scutiny by both Fox News and sevral other outlets. My concern her is that no charges have been filed in regards to the assult. While he may or may not work for Brietbart, he defanitly used their tactics. That I will correct myself on. This is more wait and see as far as any charges that are going to be pressed. One thing is for sure he was in more than a few people faces. Fair enough? The vidoe is clips of specific instances not the whole video. There are more than a few camera angle on this as well.
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Another one who isn't paying attention to what has been given. :doh
First of all Moot was wrong in her position. She was directed to the same video you were. She admitted to not watching it until much later, making her arguments irrelevant.
And it can be seen that I clearly understood which video she was talking about, which is why I kept directing her and even you to the one that wasn't edited at the time period in question. Do you not understand that?



We are talking about the video in the OP.
The video that Moot provided is the same that I previously provided for different reasons. It is not what we are talking about.

And it was clear that it was not what we have been speaking about as I mentioned exactly what we are speaking about how many times now? 8, 9, 10 times or so? Once specifically to you.


Do you not understand why I keep correcting folks and directing them to the video that isn't edited at the portioning question?

So why are you ignoring that to which you have been directed? Because it proves you wrong? Why?

Follow the link and watch the video.

Excon said:
TaraAnne said:
Okay I looked a both video's and in the second one it looks like Crowder put his hands on the man that hit him. Either we are not being told everything Crowder did and he edited the video. Or something is really fishy here .
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The video of what happened is not edited in regards to the portion in question.
Do you understand that? It is not edited in regards to the portion in question.

It can be found at the following site.
Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan | Fox News
Do you understand that?

It is also the one that was presented in the "OP" (Opening Post).
It is the one you and everybody else should be familiar with as it is the the one from the OP.
Do you understand that?

If you do, then please watch it. As it is the one that is not edited in regards to the portion in question.

No it doesn't look like Crowder put his hands on the guy prior to him assaulting Crowder.
Crowder's back is to the guy as he falls down by his side. Crowder sees this and immediately puts his hands in the air showing he had nothing to do with it.

So please tell us rational folk just how in the hell Crowder pushed him to the ground when his back was to him?
If there was any pushing of the guy to the ground, instead of him falling on his own, it would have to have been by someone else, not Crowder.
Which I already pointed out long ago.
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j-mac said:
Criminals...
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How do you know if it was an actual union official/member doing the punching and not some hired thug out to make the unions look bad? :rolleyes:
 
If the unions want to fight the system. . .

 
solletica said:
How do you know if it was an actual union official/member doing the punching and not some hired thug out to make the unions look bad? :rolleyes:
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becuase the Union moron goon had his name on his jacket...
 
Excon said:
If you believe what you are saying, you are seeing things.
Crowder did not push the guy to the ground. The guy may have thought he did. But it can clearly be seen that he didn't.

The short **** Union thug and his other Union goon pal were clearly pressing their bodies forward in an effort to intimidate and push Crowder and the guy next to him back.
The short **** Union thug in question was going at it verbally with the guy next to Crowder. Crowder turns away.
Crowders back is to the guy as the falls to the side of Crowder, who immediately puts his hands in the air showing he had nothing to do with it.


You are obviously making things up, or are dreaming if you think Crowder pushed him to the ground.


Making up more bs, huh?
He does not have his arms crossed at any moment in the video. Not one.
The wishful imagination is all yours.



:doh He is not slandering the guy.



No. it clearly doesn't show what you are saying. Especially since the short **** Union thug's arms are not crossed.



I would expect the guy to know how he got to the ground in the first place and not blame someone who's back was to him when he fell.
But then again I don't expect most Union thugs to be that intelligent.


Wrong! The guy was confronting the guy next to Crowder. Crowder's back was to this guy when he fell.
Why are you defending the guy who assaulted Crowder.
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Ever heard of a "hip check" Ex?

Ever see a woman in a packed crowd shove back with her ass to get some room?
 
What if...? said:
Ever heard of a "hip check" Ex?

Ever see a woman in a packed crowd shove back with her ass to get some room?
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:doh Excuses, excuse. :doh
That isn't shown in any of the videos.
 
Excon said:
:doh Excuses, excuse. :doh
That isn't shown in any of the videos.
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Just wait.

There was LOTS of people standing around with cameras.

Including the one the cover image in the original came from.

Pretty sure we're being O'Keefe'd.
 
What if...? said:
Just wait.

There was LOTS of people standing around with cameras.

Including the one the cover image in the original came from.

Pretty sure we're being O'Keefe'd.
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But hey, we saw it on Fox News so it must be true! :cool:
 
What if...? said:
Ever heard of a "hip check" Ex?

Ever see a woman in a packed crowd shove back with her ass to get some room?
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Ever heard of a cattle prod, What If...?

Maybe someone goosed the Union guy with a cattle prod. Or maybe did a wedgie on him.

It's a shame that this guessing game is being slowed down by the video evidence.
 
Grant said:
You have no idea what you're talking about, which has become a consistency on this thread.
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Of course not. Anyone in the know, knows people believe they themselves should be paid less. They envy those in third world countries who work hard for pennies. Many long for the days of sweatshops. And if I were an employer, I'd know this.

:coffeepap
 
Grant said:
Ever heard of a cattle prod, What If...?

Maybe someone goosed the Union guy with a cattle prod. Or maybe did a wedgie on him.

It's a shame that this guessing game is being slowed down by the video evidence.
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Crowder has a whole 'nother angle, evjdenced by the cover image.

I.suspect he knocked the guy to the ground in the crowd buffeting, simply incidental, and left it out because it didn't quite jibe with the narrative he was there to create.
 
What if...? said:
Crowder has a whole 'nother angle, evjdenced by the cover image.

I.suspect he knocked the guy to the ground in the crowd buffeting, simply incidental, and left it out because it didn't quite jibe with the narrative he was there to create.
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Your 'suspicions', huh?

There's a lot of that going around.
 
Grant said:
Your 'suspicions', huh?

There's a lot of that going around.
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Well the union guy clearly felt he was responsible.

That was genuine anger, possibly misplaced, but genuine.

Crowder went there to provoke people into acting out. He's a PROFESSIONAL dick.

We'll see if anybody gets arrested.
 
Excon said:
Accept your narrative is off. He didn't go looking for a fight.
And as one can see the other group is the one who started it.
So maybe you should go through the evidence presented in those 47 pages before commenting.
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I don't normally like bickering, but I will say this.

No, my narrative is not off. He was an idiot looking for trouble and he got it. This doesn't mean the union folks who ere fighting are absolved of all wrong-doing. They're all idiots trying to show each other how tough they are.

Stop defending that douche.
 
Police in Michigan are wondering about Crowder's state of mind

Michigan Police Scratch Their Heads At Fox Contributor’s Post-Punch Media Tour

Michigan State Police, who are ready to investigate and prosecute the man who punched Crowder multiple times on camera Tuesday — if only Crowder would let them. ... according to Michigan State Police, Crowder has so far shown no interest in having it investigated.
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Hmmmm -- does make one wonder if there just might be some things about the punch-out that Crowder doesn't want to go public.
 
What if...? said:
Well the union guy clearly felt he was responsible.

That was genuine anger, possibly misplaced, but genuine.

Crowder went there to provoke people into acting out. He's a PROFESSIONAL dick.

We'll see if anybody gets arrested.
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Right. It's the punchee's fault. He put his head in the way of the fist.
 
Somerville said:
Police in Michigan are wondering about Crowder's state of mind

Hmmmm -- does make one wonder if there just might be some things about the punch-out that Crowder doesn't want to go public.
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You have to wonder at the state of mind of the Michigan police if they've never heard of someone not interested in pressing charges.
 
LittleGreenFootballs.....


"Today in the fake right wing scandal we’ll call UnionThug-Gate, we learn that provocateur Steven Crowder was not just standing there minding his own business when he was punched in the face outside the Michigan Capitol — he was shoving union members.

And how do we know this? From Crowder’s own words, in this smug, self-aggrandizing interview with Canada’s Fox News imitation, Sun News. The thing about dimwits like Crowder is that if you let them keep talking long enough, they’ll eventually out themselves. They can’t help it.

The pertinent section begins at about 4 minutes in, as the interviewer rants about thugs and asks why the police didn’t arrest them (maybe because Crowder never filed a police report?):

When union thugs attack : Prime time : SunNews Video Gallery


“I’ve been very honest about this, the fact that as they started ransacking the tent, yeah, me and some men went out there … and we didn’t get violent with them but we did try to push them off the tent. That is true. We tried to push them off the tent.”

That’s right, he’s admitting on television that he was the original aggressor in this incident, but edited his video to remove the part where he was pushing union members. Idiot. Another Breitbart invented outrage bites the dust.

Little Green Footballs - Another Breitbart Fake Outrage Bites the Dust: Crowder Admits He Shoved Union Members

Didn’t Fox News Contributor Steven Crowder Just Confirm He Started Fight With Union Protester?



Case closed.


STEVE CROWDER IS A LYING RIGHT WING THUG
 
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Sorry I haven't had time to keep up with the thread. I am curious about something here. Someone said the union guy had his name on his jacket, was that indeed the case? If so, why has Crowder not pressed charges, unless he instigated the fight?
 
Catawba said:
Sorry I haven't had time to keep up with the thread. I am curious about something here. Someone said the union guy had his name on his jacket, was that indeed the case? If so, why has Crowder not pressed charges, unless he instigated the fight?
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Crowder has admitted he was the aggressor and thats why he hasn't pressed charges.
 
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