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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If a person wants to work at a place, and as much as you just admitted that the union is a quasi demo financier, but the person does not want his money going to the demo's, then why should they be forced to join a union?
    No one is forced to join a union. However, any scab who is enjoying a union wage but does not wish to join the union (for whatever reason) is typically required to pay a negotiation fee in lieu of union dues (usually set at 85%). This is only fair since it is the union who negotiated the wage which the scab is enjoying. What RTW law does is allow the scab to enjoy the union wage without paying any negotiation fee. Thus, he not only enjoys a free ride at the union's expense, but he actually enjoys a higher net income than dues-paying union members. All for doing nothing more than being a scab.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe they have something against being extorted in order to do business.....
    Since their tax rates were MUCH MUCH higher under Reagan, are you calling Prez Reagan an extortionist?
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    No one is forced to join a union. However, any scab who is enjoying a union wage but does not wish to join the union (for whatever reason) is typically required to pay a negotiation fee in lieu of union dues (usually set at 85%). This is only fair since it is the union who negotiated the wage which the scab is enjoying. What RTW law does is allow the scab to enjoy the union wage without paying any negotiation fee. Thus, he not only enjoys a free ride at the union's expense, but he actually enjoys a higher net income than dues-paying union members. All for doing nothing more than being a scab.

    Get it now?

    Yeah, extortion...Like I said.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Since their tax rates were MUCH MUCH higher under Reagan, are you calling Prez Reagan an extortionist?

    Not talking about taxes....Maybe you could keep up?
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe they have something against being extorted in order to do business.....
    Do the Koch's run union shops?

    They want to undermine democrats so their guys can get a lock and eliminate regs and taxes.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Do the Koch's run union shops?

    They want to undermine democrats so their guys can get a lock and eliminate regs and taxes.

    Nobility has nothing to do with it.

    Maybe they do, maybe they don't, I am not intimately familiar with all of their holdings. doesn't matter though. Unions ultimately break the bank of the businesses they parasite off of. Not to mention their mob thug like tactics, lack of transparency, and mandatory contribution, and forced work for demo candidates, American's and business is fed up with their crap.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, extortion...Like I said.
    Extortion?...

    Not exactly. It is free-loading and moral thievery. For a scab to accept a wage rate that he did nothing to procure is free-loading and thievery. However, you could argue that it is extortion-by-proxy since the scab would be using the political muscle of the Koch Bros. (and media ass-clowns like Chowder) to obtain a wage rate that he does not deserve.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Still dodging the question, I see. Is this because you know full well that RTW is nothing more than insidiously violent union-busting machination promoted by the Kochs, and thus you will not answer the question because you know I will bury you if you do, or because you really have no idea what you're talking about?

    Crowder may be an ass-clown, but I'm sure he knows what RTW is really all about. Therefore, he is knowingly and consciously misleading the People and deliberately undermining the ability of middle class union workers (and middle class non-union workers as well) to earn a decent living.

    In other words, he is an amoral mouthpiece for the upper class elite who uses his petty position with Faux News to spew malice and deceit. He came looking for trouble amongst the middle class and he found it.

    Isn't that right?
    Are you unable to read?
    I am not going to answer your off topic question as it has nothing to do with Tony hitting Crowder.
    It is off topic.
    This thread is about Tony hitting Crowder. Not about the actual legislation.


    Here is what I suggest.
    Stop a topic that has to to with the RTW legislation and you can ask all the questions you want.
    But not here as this thread is about Tony hitting Crowder. Not about the actual legislation.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    Extortion?...

    Not exactly. It is free-loading and moral thievery. For a scab to accept a wage rate that he did nothing to procure is free-loading and thievery. However, you could argue that it is extortion-by-proxy since the scab would be using the political muscle of the Koch Bros. (and media ass-clowns like Chowder) to obtain a wage rate that he does not deserve.
    If the employer pays a wage amount to do the job, and the non union person does the job, he gets the wage. Regardless of your name calling, and whining. Unions are a losing proposition.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Are you unable to read?
    I am not going to answer your off topic question as it has nothing to do with Tony hitting Crowder.
    It is off topic.
    This thread is about Tony hitting Crowder. Not about the actual legislation.


    Here is what I suggest.
    Stop a topic that has to to with the RTW legislation and you can ask all the questions you want.
    But not here as this thread is about Tony hitting Crowder. Not about the actual legislation.
    Nah.

    Goes to WHY Tony slogged crowder.

    Perfectly relevant.
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