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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. So, people that disagree with your point of view are "asking for it"?
    While I may not agree with him, I think he's speaking to the how it was done and not that there was disagreement. People should control themselves even when dealing with an ass, which is where I might disagree with him.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's not that they had it coming, its more like they got they wanted.

    Why were they there if not to provoke the very people whose livelihoods they are helping to destroy?
    They wanted to be pushed, punched and have their property destroyed?

    That's quite a conspiracy theory you have going there.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    While I may not agree with him, I think he's speaking to the how it was done and not that there was disagreement. People should control themselves even when dealing with an ass, which is where I might disagree with him.
    Ok, so how was it done in a manner that could in any way excuse assault?
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    This is the video in question.....



    At :37 Crowder takes the first swing and the union guy ducks. The rest is just squirmishing. And yes, Steve Crowder is a Breitbart activist and you're the only whose mentioned PJTV. Now why would you say that?


    This is from the NYT.....


    "Unfortunately for Mr. Crowder, a look at the video broadcast on the Sean Hannity show appears to show quite clearly that he left out an important section of the footage when he put together his edit. A section of the Fox News broadcast preserved by the Web site Mediaite shows that Mr. Hannity’s producers at Fox News started the clip five seconds earlier than Mr. Crowder did. What the extra footage reveals is the man who punched Mr. Crowder being knocked to the ground seconds before and then getting up and taking a swing at the comedian.

    There is one more anomaly in Mr. Crowder’s edit of the footage shot by his associates. The still frame he used for the clip’s title image on YouTube, which offers a much clearer image of the man punching him, was obviously shot by a second camera, from an entirely different angle than the rest of the footage he presented of the man hitting him. If Mr. Crowder wants to clear up the mystery of exactly what happened just before he was punched, it might make sense for him to release any footage of the incident shot from that second angle....

    Selective Editing by Fox News Contributor Revealed by Fox News - NYTimes.com


    It gets better, you should read it.

    Mr. Crowder is a fraud.
    There is no sign in that video that Crowder hit anyone.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Ohhh I see, so the protest was about AFP and Breitbarts rights now, huh? Nevermind that Republicans didn't consider the unions rights when they passed the right to work legislation without notice, debate, vote or a referendum. Tyrants and dictators around the world must be thrilled with the unraveling of our democracy. I mean really who needs enemies when we have Republicans to destroy our country from within? Oh goody we get to be like Egypt now.
    They passed laws defending Worker's Rights over Union Rights, which is as it should be.

    Yes, the behavior of the Union thugs does seem similar to whats going on in Cairo where the rights of the individual is also being suppressed by organized thuggery.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is no sign in that video that Crowder hit anyone.

    Yeah, I didn't see it either, what I did notice was that the union thugs were cutting down the tents with people in them, and Crowder tries to get them to stop it, but no punches from him...In fact he is throwing his hands in the air....

    Just for those who don't know Crowder fights Amateur MMA, I am sure he could have knocked Mr. two Jelly doughnuts out if he wanted to.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I did find these:

    Back to the study. Just what did the Economic Policy Institute find?:

    * Women's wages dropped 4.4 percent in states where unionized companies made union dues optional. (Men's wages were 1.7 percent lower).

    * The hit to wages was higher among non-whites. Blacks and Hispanics were paid 4.8 percent and 4.4 percent less than their non-union peers.

    * On average, annual wages and benefits are $1,500 lower in RTW states than for comparable workers in non-RTW states — for both union and nonunion workers.

    * Right-to-work laws widened the pay gap between men and women.

    Do Right-To-Work states hurt wages? | StarTribune.com

    We find that the mean effect of working in a right-to-work state results in a 6% to 8% reduction in wages for workers in these states, with an average wage penalty of 6.5%. Controlling for regional costs of living reduces this amount to approximately 4%. We find that previous research reporting real wage gains associated with right-to-work states is almost purely the result of border cities that benefit from their proximity to a non-RTW state.

    The Wage Penalty of Right-to-Work Laws | Economic Policy Institute

    (A large Economic Policy Institute study from 2011 found that, after controlling for a host of factors, right-to-work states have lower wages on average than pro-union states.)

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    Lonnie Stevans in 2007 found that right-to-work laws do help boost the number of businesses in a state — but the gains mostly went to owners, while average wages went down. ”

    What do ‘right-to-work’ laws do to a state’s economy?
    It seems that workers are being paid what they are worth in RTW States where the companies aren't held to ransom. It's a competitive world out there and if businesses can't compete they will just go elsewhere or die. In fact Detroit has become the graveyard for failed businesses.

    Monopolies like labor unions are always expensive for everyone and it's a good thing for business, and the consumer, when they are finally broken.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    But I live in a "Right-to-Punch-FOXNEWS-in-the-face," state. LOL!
    LOL!! That Leftist humor is sooooooooo funny!!

    Great stuff! Ever thought of turning pro?

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. So, people that disagree with your point of view are "asking for it"?
    I recall some threads when the constitutional ban on flag burning amendment was being discussed. Many on the right said that if someone is burning an American flag they are asking to get their asses kicked.

    Hell just ask Navypride what he would do if someone burned a flag in front of him.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I recall some threads when the constitutional ban on flag burning amendment was being discussed. Many on the right said that if someone is burning an American flag they are asking to get their asses kicked.

    Hell just ask Navypride what he would do if someone burned a flag in front of him.
    That was hypothetical, this is reality.

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