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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Has anybody considered that the guy who issued a MMA challenge to the guy who punched him may have done the same in the moments edited out of the video?
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Obviously not.


    You mean like you making things up, as there is no first swing by Crowder
    Look at the video again. You are making things up. That is called being dishonest.
    It is either that, or you are delusional. Which one is it?




    Oy vey! How many times do I have to ask?

    When are you going to prove this?
    I do not know what you say to be true at all.
    And as far as I know, it wasn't posted at Breitbart first either, but on Crowder's youtube channel, so prove that while you are at it.



    No. The healthcare bill is going to **** this Country up, and make more suffer.
    Conservatives don't get to present edited videos anymore.

    Raws or nothing.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I live in a right to work state and the wages here haven't gone up since the 1970s when they passed the law. My sister has worked at her bank job for thirty years and still only makes a lousy $13 an hour even though she's been promoted to VP of her division. I don't know how she does it. I had to move to California to make a six figure income. I could never have made that much here in a right to work state unless I owned the company. Be careful what you wish for, Samhain.
    I did find these:

    Back to the study. Just what did the Economic Policy Institute find?:

    * Women's wages dropped 4.4 percent in states where unionized companies made union dues optional. (Men's wages were 1.7 percent lower).

    * The hit to wages was higher among non-whites. Blacks and Hispanics were paid 4.8 percent and 4.4 percent less than their non-union peers.

    * On average, annual wages and benefits are $1,500 lower in RTW states than for comparable workers in non-RTW states — for both union and nonunion workers.

    * Right-to-work laws widened the pay gap between men and women.

    Do Right-To-Work states hurt wages? | StarTribune.com

    We find that the mean effect of working in a right-to-work state results in a 6% to 8% reduction in wages for workers in these states, with an average wage penalty of 6.5%. Controlling for regional costs of living reduces this amount to approximately 4%. We find that previous research reporting real wage gains associated with right-to-work states is almost purely the result of border cities that benefit from their proximity to a non-RTW state.

    The Wage Penalty of Right-to-Work Laws | Economic Policy Institute

    (A large Economic Policy Institute study from 2011 found that, after controlling for a host of factors, right-to-work states have lower wages on average than pro-union states.)

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    Lonnie Stevans in 2007 found that right-to-work laws do help boost the number of businesses in a state — but the gains mostly went to owners, while average wages went down. ”

    What do ‘right-to-work’ laws do to a state’s economy?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Has anybody considered that the guy who issued a MMA challenge to the guy who punched him may have done the same in the moments edited out of the video?
    Oh gawd!
    Look at the video in the article linked to in the OP.
    The portion of the video in question is not edited.



    Then after you do that, view the following for an alternative unedited look at the portion in question.



    And then while you are at it, you can tell Moot she is wrong about Crowder swinging. Neither video shows any such thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Conservatives don't get to present edited videos anymore.

    Raws or nothing.
    Funny!
    You do not get to make that decision for all.

    Debunk or fail is as it stands.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The discussion is related to the action of a union person ASSUMED to be a democrat. And OWS also came up in that discussion.
    You're right, a lot of union workers are republican and NRA members. So if they don't like their higher wages and retirement benefits that their union protects, then let them eat guns.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Has anybody considered that the guy who issued a MMA challenge to the guy who punched him may have done the same in the moments edited out of the video?
    Well, he is a comedienne.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Oh gawd!
    Look at the video in the article linked to in the OP.
    The portion of the video in question is not edited.



    Then after you do that, view the following for an alternative unedited look at the portion in question.



    And then while you are at it, you can tell Moot she is wrong about Crowder swinging. Neither video shows any such thing.


    Funny!
    You do not get to make that decision for all.

    Debunk or fail is as it stands.
    You got a time stamp.for the video you posted?

    I'm not watching that again.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If you act like a fascist expect to be called one.
    Your insults say more about you than it does me.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    You got a time stamp.for the video you posted?

    I'm not watching that again.
    Further, the original.video DOES edit oit the seconds before the fight. We DO NOT see how the union guy came to be down.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Further, the original.video DOES edit oit the seconds before the fight. We DO NOT see how the union guy came to be down.
    It isn't edited. You just don't see the reason why he fell to the ground. But we can see it is not because of Crowder.

    Find the video here. Which is the video I asked you to review. The portion in question is not edited.
    Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan | Fox News
    Start @ the 1:20 mark.
    The portion in question is not edited.



    And then you can start @ the 1:22 mark in this one if you wish for the alternative view.

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