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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    WOW, is that kind of like Obama, and the demorats, passing PPACA? Elections have consequences, the unions tried to get Proposal 2 passed to prevent the mere possibility of this law, but it (they?) failed. Democracy, or rather our demoratic republic, did work - the law was introduced, debated (posted for 5 days), passed with the required state legistative majority and was signed into law by the governor - just as all MI state laws were.
    Oh thats right the healthcare bill was meant to help the working middleclass, not the wealthy. Silly me for suggesting that unions might actually have a say in legislation that effects them.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Oh thats right the healthcare bill was meant to help the working middleclass, not the wealthy. Silly me for suggesting that unions might actually have a say in legislation that effects them.
    Class warfare now? Sad!
    Legislation should be of benefit to all without overstepping it's boundaries. The healthcare bill failed on both accounts.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Oh thats right the healthcare bill was meant to help the working middleclass, not the wealthy. Silly me for suggesting that unions might actually have a say in legislation that effects them.
    Unions have plenty of say and are still very politically active, but are simply a vocal minority. The majority still rules. All that the unions lost was the ability to force membership by declaring "closed shop" work environments, forcing the paying of their dues as a precondidtion to employment.
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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    WTF?
    I said they were there to support the passing of legislation they agreed with and of those who were passing it.
    Oh right, kinda like Al Qaeda was just there in Iraq to support the passing of Sharia law.

    Did you miss that or something?
    No no, I understand completely.


    I realize that it is more than possible, as exemplified by everything else that you have missed, or are you purposely playing dumb?
    You mean like you not being able to see Crowder taking the first swing on the video? I dunno, are you playing dumb?


    And frankly, the legislators don't have to consider the Unions at all. Or is this just another thing you didn't know about?
    Well, maybe they'll consider the unions in 2014 when all those republican union members and their family and friends vote them out of office. lol By the time Republicans are through ailienating everyone in the country but old white pasty men there won't be anyone left to vote for them.

    And yes we do have enemies within, they are called Democrats/leftists/progressives/socialists etc... LOL
    For rude.

    Why do you insist in Breitbart's involvement here?
    Are you playing dumb now? Cuz it's hard to tell with you. Crowder works for Breitbart and thats where he first posted the video.

    I don't know. Why don't you tell us? Because he certainly isn't swinging at the :37 mark as you said he was.
    I give up. I can only post the video, but I can't make you think or see. If you want to see it you will, if not...meh.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Class warfare now? Sad!
    Legislation should be of benefit to all without overstepping it's boundaries. The healthcare bill failed on both accounts.
    So saying the middleclass is a dirty word now, too? What a shame. Well, you're entitled to your opinion but the healthcare bill is going to help keep people from going bankrupt when they get sick, the right to work law is just going to make working people poorer across the board.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Unions have plenty of say and are still very politically active, but are simply a vocal minority. The majority still rules. All that the unions lost was the ability to force membership by declaring "closed shop" work environments, forcing the paying of their dues as a precondidtion to employment.
    I didn't know that. But if workers don't pay dues then how can the union exist let alone protect their safety in the work place or their wages or their retirement? The workers aren't going to pay their dues if they have to support the freeloaders. But if thats what the majority voted for.....it's a sad day for the unions. Soo let the games begin....again.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    No no, I understand completely.
    Obviously not.


    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    You mean like you not being able to see Crowder taking the first swing on the video? I dunno, are you playing dumb?
    You mean like you making things up, as there is no first swing by Crowder
    Look at the video again. You are making things up. That is called being dishonest.
    It is either that, or you are delusional. Which one is it?



    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Are you playing dumb now? Cuz it's hard to tell with you. Crowder works for Breitbart and thats where he first posted the video.
    Oy vey! How many times do I have to ask?

    When are you going to prove this?
    I do not know what you say to be true at all.
    And as far as I know, it wasn't posted at Breitbart first either, but on Crowder's youtube channel, so prove that while you are at it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So saying the middleclass is a dirty word now, too? What a shame. Well, you're entitled to your opinion but the healthcare bill is going to help keep people from going bankrupt when they get sick, the right to work law is just going to make working people poorer across the board.
    No. The healthcare bill is going to **** this Country up, and make more suffer.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So saying the middleclass is a dirty word now, too? What a shame. Well, you're entitled to your opinion but the healthcare bill is going to help keep people from going bankrupt when they get sick, the right to work law is just going to make working people poorer across the board.
    Real nominal wages increase slightly in RTW states, pre/post legislation, but there is no significant impact in either direction.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Uh...you're right we're not...so your point is?...
    The discussion is related to the action of a union person ASSUMED to be a democrat. And OWS also came up in that discussion.

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    re: Fox News contributor punched in face at pro-union protests in Michigan [W:867]

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Real nominal wages increase slightly in RTW states, pre/post legislation, but there is no significant impact in either direction.
    I live in a right to work state and the wages here haven't gone up since the 1970s when they passed the law. My sister has worked at her bank job for thirty years and still only makes a lousy $13 an hour even though she's been promoted to VP of her division. I don't know how she does it. I had to move to California to make a six figure income. I could never have made that much here in a right to work state unless I owned the company. Be careful what you wish for, Samhain.

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