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    House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

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    LANSING, Mich. — The Michigan Legislature gave final approval Tuesday to a bitterly contested right-to-work plan limiting the power of unions, a devastating and once unthinkable defeat for organized labor in a state considered a cradle of the movement.

    Unswayed by Democrats' pleas and thousands of protesters inside and outside the state Capitol, the House approved two final bills, sending them on to Republican Gov. Rick Snyder. One dealt with public sector workers, the other with government employees. Both measures cleared the Senate last week.

    Snyder is expected to sign them into law as early as Wednesday.

    The measures would make Michigan the 24th state with right-to-work laws, which ban requirements that nonunion employees pay unions for negotiating contracts and other services. Supporters say they give workers more choice and boost economic growth, but critics say the real intent is to weaken organized labor by bleeding unions of money needed to bargain effectively with management.

    "This is about freedom, fairness and equality," House Speaker Jase Bolger said. "These are basic American rights – rights that should unite us."

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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Good. As a nation, we are now about half way there. It is rediculous to be forced to contribute to leftist political causes simply to get/keep employment, even if that means giving up your "union right" to drink and drug on your breaks from work. Obviously unions are strong believers in mantaining that workplace safety! Your right to be exposed to drinking and/or drugging coworkers is very important to the unions. Yes they can!
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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Good. As a nation, we are now about half way there. It is rediculous to be forced to contribute to leftist political causes simply to get/keep employment, even if that means giving up your "union right" to drink and drug on your breaks from work. Obviously unions are strong believers in mantaining that workplace safety! Your right to be exposed to drinking and/or drugging coworkers is very important to the unions. Yes they can!
    Yeah, that's a real fair presentation of what unions do for people.

    This one libertarian thinks businesses should have the right to refuse to hire or serve black people. So obviously you are fighting for that. Or that businesses shouldn't be required to do any product safety testing, resulting in lethal substances being sold as medicine. You're in support of that, right? Since we're doing this thing where we pick out one action by anyone who remotely fits a broad group and using that as a representation of what that group stands for.
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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah, that's a real fair presentation of what unions do for people.

    This one libertarian thinks businesses should have the right to refuse to hire or serve black people. So obviously you are fighting for that. Or that businesses shouldn't be required to do any product safety testing, resulting in lethal substances being sold as medicine. You're in support of that, right? Since we're doing this thing where we pick out one action by anyone who remotely fits a broad group and using that as a representation of what that group stands for.
    That is but one recent example of "union rights" that defy common sense. Unions did not fight for the rights of minorities/women in the workplace, advocate safety testing of drugs or anything else in your dream list of good regulations "for all" - in fact, once union policy (e.g. 40 hour work weeks) becomes law "for all" then they must demand some other benefit to elevate their membership's "special rights". Unions, in case you have not noticed, are out for "special" benefits for only their members. Right to work laws take nothing away from unions (or their workers) except the "right" to create/require closed shop environments; i.e. eliminate the "join our club, pay our dues, support our causes or no job for you" right that they enjoyed in MI, until today.
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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    That is but one recent example of "union rights" that defy common sense. Unions did not fight for the rights of minorities/women in the workplace, advocate safety testing of drugs or anything else in your dream list of good regulations "for all" - in fact, once union policy (e.g. 40 hour work weeks) becomes law "for all" then they must demand some other benefit to elevate their membership's "special rights". Unions, in case you have not noticed, are out for "special" benefits for only their members. Right to work laws take nothing away from unions (or their workers) except the "right" to create/require closed shop environments; i.e. eliminate the "join our club, pay our dues, support our causes or no job for you" right that they enjoyed in MI, until today.
    If that was the point you were trying to make, why the red herring about drinking on the job?
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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

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    Disagree, that was posted before the results came in, and the topic was about Democrats threatening blood.

    But if mods want to merge or delete it,

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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Gov Snyder was against removing union rights in that state. The Republicans lost seats in the legislature and are a lame duck crew until January. Snyder just made it clear that he is a pawn. Someone yanked that bitches choke chain and he reversed himself and this was rammed through so fast no one was allowed to debate it. There's some hidden figures taking action in Michigan and this lame duck legislature and pawn of a governor are their tools. This organized and was rammed through far too quick to be otherwise.
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    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If that was the point you were trying to make, why the red herring about drinking on the job?
    Simply an example of the lenghts to which unions must now go to provide "special" rights for their members. The firing of drinking and drugging workers is justified, regardless of who they pay dues to, yet labor unions fight even that common sense "safety policy" simply because they can - look at their contract it happened during "off work time" so it is OK.
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    I will say this about this move... Republicans will pay a price in Michigan for this.
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