Page 11 of 11 FirstFirst ... 91011
Results 101 to 104 of 104

Thread: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

  1. #101
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    USA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:49 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    9,812

    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Think--why is a law needed to create a right that already exists?

    Is anyone in the other states forcing employers to hire only union members?
    It is giving the individual the right to work at any place or in any field they want without being forced to join a 3rd party organization they do not want to join. It does not take away any rights of workers that want to work in a specific field and join the union. It also does not take away the right of the union to sign up employees that want to engage with the union.
    Last edited by buck; 12-15-12 at 02:44 PM.

  2. #102
    Anti-Hypocrite
    molten_dragon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Southeast Michigan
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    9,351

    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Nope.
    Yep.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    No business could be a closed shop unless it voluntarily agreed, via contract to be one.

    The notion that the absence of a so-called "right-to-work" law forced any employer to be a closed shop is just right wing kool-aid.
    I'm not talking about the business itself getting to make a choice. I'm talking about the employees getting to make a choice. The problem is that it only takes a simple majority to create a closed shop, so there will usually be employees who didn't want to be part of the union, but are now forced to be anyway. And any employees who were hired after the closed shop was already created weren't even given a chance to vote on it.

    Of course you could just say "well they can just get a job elsewhere" but in a heavily unionized area like SE Michigan, that's not really a very viable option.
    If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.

    If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

  3. #103
    Guru
    Diogenes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Last Seen
    10-11-13 @ 06:52 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,980

    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Of course you could just say "well they can just get a job elsewhere" but in a heavily unionized area like SE Michigan, that's not really a very viable option.
    Agreed, and we can see what has happened to SE Michigan over the last couple of decades...
    "We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress & the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."
    - Abraham Lincoln

  4. #104
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: House votes: Michigan is going to become a 'right-to-work' state for all

    Welcome to the club Michigan! Congrats.

Page 11 of 11 FirstFirst ... 91011

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •