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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Perhaps not to join, but they are forced to pay union dues. Same thing.
    Not really. The dues are to assure the non union worker is also represented.

    I have to pay Homeowners Association dues even if I do not join the association.
    The homehowners association represents all the homeowners in my subdivion. Not just a few.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Workplace safety is regulated by the state and the feds, by legislation, it's not a union thing. But yes, it means I have the option of taking a job in my chosen field for less pay and/or less benefits if it suits me. It also means I can take a job for more pay and benefits than are offered in the union shop. Or different benefit/pay mixes that suit me.
    Oh, So you are in favor of Govt. regulating business. I thought that was bad, and now you are praising it.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Only when they benefit from those Union efforts to increase pay. If they take the benefit without supporting those responsible, then they are freeloaders.
    Well said.

    This articles calls them free riders however.
    The Republican lawmakers who supported the bills said the measures give workers the freedom to join a union or not. But that's not quite right. Workers are never required to join a union. They can, in states without right-to-work laws, be required to pay some dues to a union for representing them in negotiations with management.

    That's because nonunion workers in that workplace benefit from a union-negotiated contract just like union members;
    the union can also be required to represent nonunion workers in a workplace conflict. In right-to-work states, nonunion workers who don't pay dues but benefit from union representation are called "free riders." Free riders drain union treasuries of money, economists have found, while shrinking union membership by 5 to 10 percent.
    Read more:
    Michigan's Own Scott Walker-Style Showdown Is Coming | Mother Jones
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Not really. The dues are to assure the non union worker is also represented.

    I have to pay Homeowners Association dues even if I do not join the association.
    The homehowners association represents all the homeowners in my subdivion. Not just a few.
    That is so not a valid comparison. (And, BTW, you are automatically a member of the association. There is no "joining" required.)
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    That is so not a valid comparison. (And, BTW, you are automatically a member of the association. There is no "joining" required.)
    Well, one thing is for certain I have to pay the dues even if do not want to be a member.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Well, one thing is for certain I have to pay the dues even if do not want to be a member.
    That's because you became a member when you bought the house.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    The Michigan Education Association spent 134 million last year, of which only 15 million was spent on representing their employees with an additional 39,000 spent on strike benefits.

    6.5 million was spent on union adminsitration, 50 million on general overhead, and 4.8 million on political lobbying.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Violent radical marxist thugs on display

    UNIONS ASSAULT ON CAMERA!! - YouTube

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Title says Democrats.


    Article says Democrat.
    Title directly copy and pasted

    Look at the link in my post. It says "Democrats"

    Checked again direct copy/paste:

    Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Oh, So you are in favor of Govt. regulating business. I thought that was bad, and now you are praising it.
    Well if you thought that was bad, from my view, you're wrong. I've never complained about government's ability to regulate business - that's the lion share of their job, regulating commerce. I do complain when the regulation is overboard or nonsensical.

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