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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is silly. until there are massive cuts in spending, the temporary increase in revenues won't mean squat
    A good start would be scaling back(closing) a few of our 50 bases, in 30 countries around the world; more than half being in Europe. Why are we spending $1.7 bill per year on our air force in...Europe?
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Workers trying to get the highest salary...is a "double standard"?

    Only in your world.

    But thanks for showing that your interest is again in lower wages.
    Let's see your compassion for the workers, how much do you pay your employees and what have you done to increase employment and solve the liveable wage issue?

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    And today we hear that a Michigan GOP state representative who strongly support the "right to work" bill proposed an amendment to exempt her husband's union from the bill! Hard to believe, innit? She did.










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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    They provided health insurance for every single employee, part- or full-time for $15 a pay period until just now . . . when they've disallowed new hires who are working under 24 hours a month. This is a very generous program. I'm sorry it doesn't fit with your attempt to paint this company as some kind of monster.

    Union organizer in a previous life?

    BTW, I am not going to believe a former manager nor an employee who thought that by hiring on behind WalMart's deli counter she was starting "her career."
    They provide HI to less than 44% of their employees, and on average 25% of their employees use state HI programs, which is higher than nearly all other employers.

    You really need to get much better data than the BS you have been laying out.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Let's see your compassion for the workers, how much do you pay your employees and what have you done to increase employment and solve the liveable wage issue?
    Again and again, I keep reminding you that I'm a sole proprietor, but on the other hand, you were and still are a company man that avoids backing up many, many claims...ie, your integrity is lacking.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    They provide HI to less than 44% of their employees, and on average 25% of their employees use state HI programs, which is higher than nearly all other employers.

    You really need to get much better data than the BS you have been laying out.
    Personal choice is a bitch, isn't it? No one can force anyone to buy health insurance. I employed 1200 people, offered healthcare to full and part time employees, paid over 80% of the cost and got 50% participation rate. Guess I should have held a gun to their heads forcing them to contribute to their health care. What you show is your total lack of understanding of personal responsibility and business costs. That is probably why you employ no one

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Again and again, I keep reminding you that I'm a sole proprietor, but on the other hand, you were and still are a company man that avoids backing up many, many claims...ie, your integrity is lacking.
    I retired 8 years ago but competed against Wal-Mart and know their pay and benefits quite well. You get your information from partisan sources that have an agenda. Guess it is easier to buy what you are told than actually do a survey.

    I know a lot of sole proprietors that employ people, apparently you aren't big enough to do that

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Personal choice is a bitch, isn't it? No one can force anyone to buy health insurance. I employed 1200 people, offered healthcare to full and part time employees, paid over 80% of the cost and got 50% participation rate. Guess I should have held a gun to their heads forcing them to contribute to their health care. What you show is your total lack of understanding of personal responsibility and business costs. That is probably why you employ no one
    I see you have once again totally lost track of your own argument, you know, where you asked "what corps don't pay a living wage". We show you, you then decide to go yet off on another tangent of insurance, all without any point on how this relates to anti-union actions in MI.

    You really have nothing left to do but to go off on your flights of fancy, do you?

    Do you have any point with all this that relates to the topic?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I retired 8 years ago but competed against Wal-Mart and know their pay and benefits quite well. You get your information from partisan sources that have an agenda. Guess it is easier to buy what you are told than actually do a survey.

    I know a lot of sole proprietors that employ people, apparently you aren't big enough to do that
    Wait, this is the guy that posts links to a Rick Berman front organization, calls them a "union website".....and I am accused of getting info from "partisan sites"? The gall continues.

    You just don't have anything left related to the topic, do you?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I see you have once again totally lost track of your own argument, you know, where you asked "what corps don't pay a living wage". We show you, you then decide to go yet off on another tangent of insurance, all without any point on how this relates to anti-union actions in MI.

    You really have nothing left to do but to go off on your flights of fancy, do you?

    Do you have any point with all this that relates to the topic?
    You have shown no such thing other than your opinion. I am waiting for you to explain how a 16-19 year old living at home with parents making minimum wage isn't making a liveable wage? You seem to have a problem understanding personal responsibility as well as the responsibility of someone making minimum wage to work hard enough to earn more. Guess that comes with not employing anyone. Never in my career did I pay minimum wage and always promoted from within.

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