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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Please give a dollar amount that you consider to be a living wage. Thank you.
    About three times what the average one bedroom apartment costs.

    Rule of thumb for what one can afford as rent is 30% (iirc).
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

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    How do you know what Wal-Mart pays and what do you define as a minimum wage? You have no idea what the average or even the median salary is at Wal-Mart
    You brought up "living" wage, now it is minimum wage. Min wage is not a living wage, and huge majority of WM workers rely on govt assistance, obviously they don't pay a living wage. But keep moving the goalposts around, you always do.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yeah, I know, and I corrected myself...."unionfacts.com" is a Rick Berman anti-union front group.
    I don't need to be told via a "fact" site what is true and false. I can form my conclusions on a topic to the words and actions of both sides of the issue.

    I used to be member of a union.... Quite frankly I'm sick of the pro-union crowed pretending like anyone who is opposed to the union tactics or is pro-capitalist somehow was never a union member and is certainly not blue collar working class.

    People should have the right to join a union or to opt out of joining a union....

    I would love for you progressive pro-union folks to tell me why someone shouldn't have the choice as an individual to NOT join the union, or should be required to join a union just so they can put food on the table?

    People shouldn't be required to pay someone just so they can work, workers shouldn't be required to strike because the union tells them to strike. Those that do take orders from the unions should be labeled as robot zombies because that's exactly what they are when they strike because they're told to despite the fact many workers are more than content with their job, salaries and benefits.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    About three times what the average one bedroom apartment costs.

    Rule of thumb for what one can afford as rent is 30% (iirc).
    So, what would that be in NYC, Van Horn, Tx, San Jose, Ca, Brazil, In? And, how would that wage effect the price of a can of refried beans?

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I don't need to be told via a "fact" site what is true and false. I can form my conclusions on a topic to the words and actions of both sides of the issue.
    Dude, anyone that believes that McD flippers in Chi earn "$12" per need a better source of info.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    So, what would that be in NYC, Van Horn, Tx, San Jose, Ca, Brazil, In? And, how would that wage effect the price of a can of refried beans?
    Exactly...

    I'm from Chicago and you cant find a place around here for less than $1,500 a month in a safe neighborhood, however I can go to Rockford Illinois and find places for $300 a month all day in nice safe neighborhoods... Of course in Rockford I would be making half my salary that I do here the Chicago area, however there is a big difference between $750 bucks and $300.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    There is a thread on Wall Mart and what they pay, sheesh
    Yes, there is, have you read it? do you know the difference between part time and full time workers? Do you understand the concept of promoting from within? Do you realize where most of Wal-Mart managers come from and what they make? Your perceived opinion is just that an uneducated one. I competed against Wal-Mart and understand their structure which apparently you don't

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    If union org's have problem with leadership salaries, that is entirely their own issue, it has nothing to with the fact that union busting efforts are designed to lower wages.
    Union management appreciates your support for if the unions go out of business the ones losing their jobs are the managers.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You brought up "living" wage, now it is minimum wage. Min wage is not a living wage, and huge majority of WM workers rely on govt assistance, obviously they don't pay a living wage. But keep moving the goalposts around, you always do.
    That is your opinion which obviously is guided by your lack of economic understanding as well as the Wal-Mart pay structure. You pull information out of your ass, a huge majority? Prove it? What is a huge majority of Wal-Mart full time employees?

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Union management appreciates your support for if the unions go out of business the ones losing their jobs are the managers.
    Thank you Captain Obvious!

    Now that the low hanging fruit is picked, gonna try and reach a bit higher?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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