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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

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    That is your opinion yet you have not provided me one corporation that pays what you would consider a non liveable wage?
    Wall Mart doent pay a living wage

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

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    That is your opinion yet you have not provided me one corporation that pays what you would consider a non liveable wage?
    I don't know why you think bringing up another losing tangent does your argument any good, and it is not opinion, it is a fact that "RTW" states have lower average wages. Why else would corporatists push and fund such legislation?
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

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    Again, that is not any unions webpage, it is a Koch bros front organization.

    Edit, sorry, got my corporatist mixed up, it is a Rick Berman front group.
    Are the numbers in error?

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

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    We already have considered this, Dickieboy, and have deemed it pure fantasy since no industrial size employer is going to individually negotiate legally binding contracts with every one of its individual employees. The expense alone would make this impractical, if not impossible. Thus, your hypothetical can only occur in fantasyland. This is the point.
    There you go building strawmen…are the ONLY employers ‘industrial size’? Does every employer, regardless of size, not hire their employees? Are not verbal employment agreements binding? Are employees not individually interviewed (at least by someone)? In MANY of the non-union facilities that I have been involved in (including some in non-RTW states) individual employees rates were based on production which varied their individual incomes and yes these were individual non-union negotiated contracts. Part of my agreement in nondisclosure prevents me from providing detailed information but it does occur.
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

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    Wall Mart doent pay a living wage
    Please give a dollar amount that you consider to be a living wage. Thank you.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I said it before, I am not going to waste my time with anti-union front sites that are funded directly by corporatists like Rick Berman.

    Whether you choose to believe the propaganda is up to you, but you would being a corporatist yourself.

    I'm still asking, what does this tangent have to do with the fact that all of this is simply designed to lower wages.
    Amazing how the Koch Brothers infiltrated the Labor Dept.

    Not exactly the 99%: Top union leaders

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Wall Mart doent pay a living wage
    How do you know what Wal-Mart pays and what do you define as a minimum wage? You have no idea what the average or even the median salary is at Wal-Mart

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

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    How do you know what Wal-Mart pays and what do you define as a minimum wage? You have no idea what the average or even the median salary is at Wal-Mart
    There is a thread on Wall Mart and what they pay, sheesh

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Are the numbers in error?
    If union org's have problem with leadership salaries, that is entirely their own issue, it has nothing to with the fact that union busting efforts are designed to lower wages.
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    We already have considered this, Dickieboy, and have deemed it pure fantasy since no industrial size employer is going to individually negotiate legally binding contracts with every one of its individual employees. The expense alone would make this impractical, if not impossible. Thus, your hypothetical can only occur in fantasyland. This is the point.
    Further on this point, are employees not reviewed individually regardless of union affiliation or not? Why? Is this not equally ‘impractical, if not impossible’?
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