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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Again, information out of context as usual. TX has less than 500,000 at or below the FEDERAL Minimum Wage and that FEDERAL minimum wage is all that is captured by the BLS. How about California minimum wage of $8 an hour, how many collect that wage?

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    The bias is up front with TP, if you didn't figure it out with the name.

    Good grief, your argument just gets worse and worse. I didn't think it was possible.
    So prove that the salaries for top union management isn't as reported?

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Again, information out of context as usual. TX has less than 500,000 at or below the FEDERAL Minimum Wage and that FEDERAL minimum wage is all that is captured by the BLS. How about California minimum wage of $8 an hour, how many collect that wage?
    Why don't you look it up and make a point for once

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    So your discrimination assertion was based on race/gender? Again how are Unions more effective at preventing this than the force of law?
    The irony is that union efforts were in large part responsible for much of that legislation as has been argued previously.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    So your discrimination assertion was based on race/gender? Again how are Unions more effective at preventing this than the force of law?
    I never argued that they were.

    Keep thinking.
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Why don't you look it up and make a point for once
    Usually posting links is a waste of time with you. Here are the facts from the Union's own website. Where is your outrage?


    Union Facts: AFL-CIO Leaders, Employees, and Salaries

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So prove that the salaries for top union management isn't as reported?
    What does this tangent have to do with the efforts of these union busting actions in LOWERING wages?
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    What does this tangent have to do with the efforts of these union busting actions in LOWERING wages?
    How does personal choice lower wages? The ones concerned about union busting are the union management as the workers will still have their jobs

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Usually posting links is a waste of time with you. Here are the facts from the Union's own website. Where is your outrage?


    Union Facts: AFL-CIO Leaders, Employees, and Salaries
    Again, that is not any unions webpage, it is a Koch bros front organization.

    Edit, sorry, got my corporatist mixed up, it is a Rick Berman front group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How does personal choice lower wages? The ones concerned about union busting are the union management as the workers will still have their jobs
    I really hate having to repeat myself:

    No one is forced to join a union. However, a scab will be required to pay 85% of the standard union dues in the form of a negotiations fee as return for the union wage he is earning, a wage which the union obtained at its own expense.

    What "Right to Work" really amounts to is giving the scab the right to collect a union wage without paying the negotiations fee, thus garnering a significantly higher wage for the scab than the dues-paying union member. Obviously, the intent of so-called "Right to Work" is to encourage union members to jump ship and join the scabs by giving a financial incentive to do so.

    "Right to Work" is just a veiled method of union-busting.
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