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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by OnWisconsin View Post
    If you don't want to join a union dont join one.. How damn hard is that. I'm an Ironworker. No one forced me to join, infact I wanted to join. If I didn't want to pay union dues, then I easily could have found another line of work.
    In certain states its hard. You do not have the freedom to work out your own contract with an employer.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    All of this hand wringing and faux outrage about the tweet of Doug Geiss is quite amusing. Geiss is a very mild mannered man who has a degree in engineering and a masters in business. he was previously a white collar management employee at Ford Motor Company. The idea that he is the right wing cliche of what they like to call a "union thug" is downright hilarious.

    His tweet yesterday referred to other comments he made how the Republicans were intentionally creating a poisonous atmosphere in work places which could well result in arguments, fights and spilt blood. It was NOT a rallying cry for violence or any of the other over the top nonsense that he has been accused of. His office is on the same floor as ours is and I have been in many a meeting with him.
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    They will
    Read the thread, read the Op. The anti-RTW folks tried to roll their crap into the Michigan constitution and it was soundly rejected by the voters.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That is typical liberal talking points and a downright lie. California has over a million more on minimum wage than TX but it is California minimum wage of $8 an hour. Right to work states are creating jobs, union states are losing jobs. Would you prefer no job to having a job?
    No it not Perry's Texas Has Highest Percentage Of Minimum Wage Jobs In The Nation | ThinkProgress

    Perry and the rest of the Republicans in this state have ruined it.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Read the thread, read the Op. The anti-RTW folks tried to roll their crap into the Michigan constitution and it was soundly rejected by the voters.
    The Proposition 2 campaign and results have not a damn thing to do with the right to work laws passed yesterday except in the right wing minds of those who attempted to make the connection as a stupid excuse for their actions. It is akin to "the devil made us do it."
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    No it not Perry's Texas Has Highest Percentage Of Minimum Wage Jobs In The Nation | ThinkProgress

    Perry and the rest of the Republicans in this state have ruined it.
    You just don't get it nor do you understand minimum wage. TX pays the Federal Minimum wage and California isn't counted because the state has its own. You try to live in California on $8 per hour compared to TX at $7.25. Stop buying what you are told and get the facts. It is the Federal Minimum wage that is counted by the BLS not the individual state minimum wage. California has more than a million more on California minimum wage than TX has on the Federal Minimum wage.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Proposition 2 campaign and results have not a damn thing to do with the right to work laws passed yesterday except in the right wing minds of those who attempted to make the connection as a stupid excuse for their actions. It is akin to "the devil made us do it."
    LOL, do you really need a union to negotiate wages and benefits for you? Of course not, that is just for everyone else that aren't nearly as smart as you. Guess far too many don't have enough pride in themselves to get anything done without the help of a union thus aren't worth nearly as much as the unions are getting for them. Wonder if you would have rehired those 13 Chrysler workers caught drinking and smoking pot on their lunch hour if they were employees of your private business? You see what unions have come to? No wonder less than 12% of the work force is unionized with most of those in the public sector.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You just don't get it nor do you understand minimum wage. TX pays the Federal Minimum wage and California isn't counted because the state has its own. You try to live in California on $8 per hour compared to TX at $7.25. Stop buying what you are told and get the facts. It is the Federal Minimum wage that is counted by the BLS not the individual state minimum wage. California has more than a million more on California minimum wage than TX has on the Federal Minimum wage.
    The Texas Independent added, “the median hourly earnings for all Texas workers was $11.20 per hour in 2010, compared to the national median of $12.50 per hour.”

    You should try reading the articles sometimes.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The Texas Independent added, “the median hourly earnings for all Texas workers was $11.20 per hour in 2010, compared to the national median of $12.50 per hour.”

    You should try reading the articles sometimes.
    You ought to move to one of those high paying high tax states. You ought to worry more about what you are making vs. what someone else is making. Guess personal responsibility doesn't exist in your world. Doubt seriously that you ever had a union negotiate anything for you because you were smart enough and good enough to do it yourself. By the way BLS has it at 15.44 per hour in TX considering all occupations.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You ought to move to one of those high paying high tax states. You ought to worry more about what you are making vs. what someone else is making. Guess personal responsibility doesn't exist in your world. Doubt seriously that you ever had a union negotiate anything for you because you were smart enough and good enough to do it yourself. By the way BLS has it at 15.44 per hour in TX considering all occupations.
    Your claim means nothing with out a link.

    BTW I have lived and worked in New York City at gigs most people dream about.

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