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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    No matter how many times I have reminded you, this point never sinks in. Your hero, Ronnie, at the behest of Greenspan, INCREASED the FICA rate to create a surplus for spending in the general fund....AND DECREASED tax rates on upper income. So this "not understanding" REALLY needs to end, along with this notion that "50% don't pay taxes", they have been contributing to the general fund since the FICA increase in 1983.
    "MY" hero increased FICA taxes to keep SS and Medicare Solvent. Nice attempt at diversion though along with ignoring that Federal Tax INCOME TAX revenue went up during the Reagan years with those Reagan tax cuts but never let a fact get in the way of your partisan opinions.

    Anyone that works is required to pay into SS and Medicare, neither of which were supposed to go into the General Fund. Really is hard dealing with people who don't understand taxes

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by YoungConserv View Post
    No but in michigan the state withholds the money from the workers pay check and gives it to the unions.
    Sorry, but I just have to call BS on that one. Link? Backup of any sort?
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's not "Obama and the liberals" who are saying that the poor don't pay taxes.
    No, they are claiming that just like you a tax is a tax regardless of where it comes from. That is hardly the case when it comes to SS and Medicare which are funded by payroll taxes. When you buy the liberal rhetoric the battle and war are lost.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Ya got a link to that claim?
    I gave you a link regarding Michigan and further that was what the entire argument was in Wisconsin. You really ought to do more research

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    "MY" hero increased FICA taxes to keep SS and Medicare Solvent. Nice attempt at diversion though along with ignoring that Federal Tax INCOME TAX revenue went up during the Reagan years with those Reagan tax cuts but never let a fact get in the way of your partisan opinions.

    Anyone that works is required to pay into SS and Medicare, neither of which were supposed to go into the General Fund. Really is hard dealing with people who don't understand taxes
    Taxing the working people what a great idea

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I gave you a link regarding Michigan and further that was what the entire argument was in Wisconsin. You really ought to do more research
    No you did not.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Ya got a link to that claim?
    Union dues can no longer be withheld from Michigan home health care workers | Michigan news | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/201...n-dues-1-.html

    It will probably be in the larger outlets later in the news cycle

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    With private sector unions that math adds up funny. Let me see if I have this straight. The tax payers pay the government, who then uses these tax dollars to pay public union workers. This is OK so far. The union then collects dues, which originated from the taxpayer, and uses that taxpayer money to buy politians who will give them more tax payer money.

    It is like a money laundering scam. Tax payer money is laundered through the [public sector unions since polititians can just take the tax money directly for personal gain. it may be cheaper than way, since they need to kick back tax money to the laundrymat which adds expanse. This may explain the need for public sector unions. Divide the booty with the pirates for services rendered.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, they are claiming that just like you a tax is a tax regardless of where it comes from. That is hardly the case when it comes to SS and Medicare which are funded by payroll taxes. When you buy the liberal rhetoric the battle and war are lost.
    It isn't "liberal rhetoric" to call a spade a spade, or a tax a tax. What did you just call it?
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    [QUOTE=YoungConserv;1061241254]Union dues can no longer be withheld from Michigan home health care workers | Michigan news | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

    Michigan Governor Snyder Signs Ban on Mandatory Union Dues- Bloomberg

    SEIU collected $30 million in dues over the last six years.
    The service employees international union is NOT a state government entity.

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