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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you mean 'right to work for less money, less benefits, and less workplace safety'? yeah, thats a hell of a way to compete.
    And probably less laundered money for the democrats. That's the real rub here for the union leadership.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sounds like an awfully vague way of line itemizing it...Plenty of room for corruption, and theft.
    Are you suggesting coruption in unions. I'm shocked at the thought!

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    God forbid someone be allowed to work without being forced to pay a union they don't want to join.

    Freedom in the eyes of the Democrat party.
    And just think they love pointing out peoples right to association. I guess it only applies if all your co-workers agree with your choice.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Not really. The dues are to assure the non union worker is also represented.
    They don't want representation by the union. That is the entire point of them not joining and not paying the dues. Is that not obvious?

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    "My machine is down, and I have nothing to do. I'll go sit in the cafeteria until it's fixed. And I'm not sweeping that damned floor!! It's not my job classification!! Call my union rep!!!" Who's the freeloader?
    In my career as a machinist I was fortunate to work in two union shops. In both of these shops, the management could, and did make workers sweep the shop. We had labor grades to decide the pay rate, from 4 to 12. As long as the company paid your wages, they could require you to do anything at your pay grade or below. Sweeping and cleaning the machines was a common practice.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    F.D.R. Warned Us About Public Sector Unions - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com

    It is impossible to bargain collectively with the government.

    That wasn’t Newt Gingrich, or Ron Paul, or Ronald Reagan talking. That was George Meany -- the former president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O -- in 1955. Government unions are unremarkable today, but the labor movement once thought the idea absurd.

    The founders of the labor movement viewed unions as a vehicle to get workers more of the profits they help create. Government workers, however, don’t generate profits. They merely negotiate for more tax money. When government unions strike, they strike against taxpayers. F.D.R. considered this “unthinkable and intolerable.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I find that disgusting. We live in a democratic nation. If "the majority" wants the state to be Right to Work, then that's what ought to happen. That asshole should be ashamed of himself.
    Except the majority opposes right to work... And when the government explicitly acts against the will of the people and includes legislative tricks to prevent a referendum, there's nothing wrong with a little revolution.
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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Honestly now. It's a metaphor. There won't be a brawl on the house floor.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Honestly now. It's a metaphor. There won't be a brawl on the house floor.
    Funny, the left had a problem with Palin's comment about a 'target'. I don't recall them suggesting a metaphor. I could be wrong.

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    Re: Democrats threaten violence on Michigan House floor

    Quote Originally Posted by hfd View Post
    Funny, the left had a problem with Palin's comment about a 'target'. I don't recall them suggesting a metaphor. I could be wrong.
    Two things:
    1.) The DNC is not the left.
    2.) Palin's comments incited violence, but these were rather tame. Many people use fight rhetoric before debates(I tend to as well), it's not that uncommon/

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