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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Your point is kind of stupid too.
    It shouldn't matter whether it is a current active political viewpoint or not.
    Exactly.
    As I said - the 1st amendment protets the expression of political points of view whether they are currently relevant or not, thus rendering unsound Redress's response.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Exactly. Expressions of free speech include opinions which may not necessarily be politically correct or popular. I'm having a difficult time believing there is even a constitutional question here.
    I believe that the rejection/acceptance of group plates being entirely up to the state legislature is the issue. In Texas, nearly any group/organization can qualify for custom group plates, but it requires a deposit of $8K, refundable after 800 such plates are actually ordered. The article indicates repeated attempts at getting the "counter group" plates were rejected - that is what makes this a "gov't approved" political speech issue, IMHO.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    They did not so much refuse to offer a countering viewpoint as they did not offer one.
    I haven't seen anything to suggest that the state was asked, or told, to offer a countering view and declined to do so.
    Then you did not bother to read the article. The state senate rejected bills that would have offered the countering viewpoint.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Not sure about NC, but in a state I am familiar, it takes a signed petition to add a specialty license plate unless it is obscene, etc. If that is the case in NC, then unless the state prohibited the other side, then I don't see how this isn't balanced.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Or "reproductive freedom", or "keep the government out of my body", or.....
    I hate that term... "Reproductive Freedom"

    As if the alternative is reproductive slavery, even though it was the INDIVIDUAL'S actions that got them in the position to be the slave in the first place.



    "Reproductive Freedom" means choosing not to have sex if you cannot handle the consequences.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    The KKK doesn't have right to adopt a highway.
    Why not?

    If I had to chose between having a dirty ****ty looking roadway, or having the KKK bring their wives and kids down and clean it up and having a clean roadway... I'll take the clean roadway any day of the week.


    I gives a **** about WHO is doing the work.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    You clearly aren't familiar with the ACLU then. The ACLU is for equality under the law.
    When it suits them and their particular political point of view.
    How many times has the ACLU gone to bat for the pro-gun rights position?

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    They did not so much refuse to offer a countering viewpoint as they did not offer one.
    I haven't seen anything to suggest that the state was asked, or told, to offer a countering view and declined to do so.
    Um, did you even read your OP's link?

    During the 2011 legislative session, the North Carolina General Assembly passed House Bill 289, which authorized the issuance of a “Choose Life” license plate.

    However, officials say the legislature repeatedly refused to authorize a plate that supported the countervailing position in favor of reproductive freedom.

    Six amendments were proposed in the legislature to authorize an additional new plate that stated either, “Trust Women. Respect Choice,” or simply “Respect Choice.” The legislature rejected all six amendments.
    Reading is "for the mental", um I meant "fundamental".
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Um, did you even read your OP's link?
    I did not read that far. Mia Culpa.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Ummmm, I would.
    Seems the issue could be easily resolved then.

    Some like yourself could have "Choose Death" license plates and the less enlightened could have "Choose Life" license plates.

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