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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by BayToBay View Post
    Did someone propose a counter to these plates?

    The state Senate apparently rejected a counter viewpoint plate 6 times, in this case.
    I reckon if a counter viewpoint was proposed then it is wrong to allow one while rejecting the other.
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by BayToBay View Post
    Did someone propose a counter to these plates?

    The state Senate apparently rejected a counter viewpoint plate 6 times, in this case.
    I think that is the problem. The way it works in Va is that the state does not issue a plate on its own. If you want a logo plate, you precommit to a set number of plates, then the state will print provided that it meets state requirements. (No offensive language, etc.). No government agency should permit one viewpoint over another. From the article, the state permitted the pro life plates, but not the pro choice plates. I think the judge ruled correctly.



    Not to be confused with vanity plates. You can express your viewpoint on a vanity plate. A committee reviews for state guideline violations, but still I don't think that any on viewpoint would be allowed over another.
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I can understand if they refused to allow an opposing view point, but why not just force the state to allow pro-choice license plates instead of banning pro-life ones?
    The courts do not have the authority to take such actions. That would be legislating from the bench.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I can understand if they refused to allow an opposing view point, but why not just force the state to allow pro-choice license plates instead of banning pro-life ones?
    The Court really shouldn't do something like force them to have do something when there is also the option, which is just as easy and more Court-like, to say that you cannot do it.
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I can understand if they refused to allow an opposing view point, but why not just force the state to allow pro-choice license plates instead of banning pro-life ones?
    I would guess that is what probably happened in the ruling. There would most likely be an either/or ruling.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How is it a victory for free speech by taking away the ability to voice a viewpoint on a license plate?
    Who would want a license plate with "Choose Death" on it?

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    I can understand the revenue idea of these slogans and stuff on license plates, but it is going over the line. The state does not get to push some idea or viewpoint. if they offered up both sides then I could see it, but that is just another stupid hassle for the state. Just keep your nose out of campaigning political points. if a person wants to slap a anti-abortion sticker onto their car then they are allowed to. No one is taking away that ability. They are just simply saying the state cannot enter into this campaigning BS as that is endorsing one side or the other. We don't need to spend extra money on PC people to make sure that License plates have all sides represented, just get rid of the campaigning all together.

    If you want to make profit on these stylized plates then do it through entertainment. you could put sports team logos, or i like fishing, or the state's motto. Youi can make your extra money off of that and leave the political campaigning to the politicians.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who would want a license plate with "Choose Death" on it?

    Ummmm, I would.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    Its a good bet that the ACLU would not sue over this, either.
    You clearly aren't familiar with the ACLU then. The ACLU is for equality under the law. If the State allowed a pro-choice plate but not a pro-life plate the ACLU likely would have taken the case as well. This is an organization that has sued on behalf of the KKK so the KKK could join the Adopt a Highway program. And yeah, if the ACLU had been around back in the days when slavery was an actual partisan issue, they probably would have taken that case as well.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, your point was just kinda stupid. If slavery was an issue in the US today, and the state decided to allow one viewpoint on a license plate but not the other, then and only then would you have a point. As is, your "point" fails miserably.
    But, it would be ok to offer a gay pride license plate without offering a license plate with an opposing opinon, I'm sure.
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