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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    These should also be dropped based on the judge's rule, correct? I would have added the dozen or so NASCAR plates since they don't offer Dick Trickle, but I think you see the point.

    Where do anhy of those offer a political view?
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    There was nothig -to- refute -- none of what you said was meaningful or relevant.
    The issue here is state support of one point of view to the exclusion of another -- as such, to that issue, it doesn't matter that slavery itself is not an issue of similar importance today.

    Now tell me - and do try to be honest:
    Do you believe the ACLU would sue because a state offered anti-slavery plates to the exclusion of pro-slavery plates?
    Slavery is not a political issue in this country at this time. Abortion rights are. Did or did not the state offer a chance for one group of people to offer their view on a political issue, but not another, with a state issued item? That is the issue, and the whole of the issue.
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Where do anhy of those offer a political view?
    "I Care" supports forced sterilization of animals.
    "Kids First" subsidizes children. I really put this one on there since this design is very close to the "life" plate, in that it had a picture of two kids' faces instead of two hand prints.
    "Masonic Temple" supports a religion
    "NRA" is political, kinda obvious there
    "Support Our Troops" doesn't have the obvious "anti-war" plate.

    They also offer a "Sons of the Confederacy" plate.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Slavery is not a political issue in this country at this time. Abortion rights are.
    As I said, this is irrelevant. Theres no "relevant at the time" provision, explicit or implicit, related to the protections afforded by the 1st amendment -- and so, anything based on this premise, so stated by you, necessarily fails.

    I ask again, and, again, expect you to be honest:
    Do you believe the ACLU would sue because a state offered anti-slavery plates to the exclusion of pro-slavery plates?

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    As I said, this is irrelevant. Theres no "relevant at the time" provision, explicit or implicit, related to the protections afforded by the 1st amendment -- and so, anything based on this premise, so stated by you, necessarily fails.
    Can't make a court case against nothing, so it is irrelevant in the extreme. No one is making a pro nor anti slavery license plate.

    I ask again, and, again, expect you to be honest:
    Do you believe the ACLU would sue because a state offered anti-slavery plates to the exclusion of pro-slavery plates?
    No one would make an issue of it so the case would never happen.

    Does any one else find it hilarious that conservatives, who are supposedly small government, are so hostile towards the ACLU, an organization which protects the rights of individuals against the state?
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Do you believe the ACLU would sue because a state offered anti-slavery plates to the exclusion of pro-slavery plates?
    A pro-slavery view is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    A pro-slavery view is unconstitutional.
    there's no such thing as an unconstitutional opinion.

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    I do not agree with the judge! That being sad I have no right to tell anyone what they can or cant do with their bodies. That is a personal choice handled by the person and a doctor. I do question the sanity of someone who would put that on a the back of a car. Mental issues come to mind!

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Where do anhy of those offer a political view?
    ... you really can't see any...

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    Re: Judge finds NC "Choose Life" plate unconstitutioonal

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can't make a court case against nothing...
    I'll accept your intentional obtuseness as a concession of the point. Thank you.

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