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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    One that was fiscally responsible.
    Stop with the crazy talk...


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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Stop with the crazy talk...
    I am sorry!

    Shame on me!!

    What was I thinkin'?
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I am sorry!

    Shame on me!!

    What was I thinkin'?
    Forgiven...


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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Fiscally responsible? We expect our representatives to be fiscally responsible? What's next, expecting them to put the country ahead of party? To actually work on solving the problems we face as a nation?

    OMG! Were they do do so, our government would cease to be dysfunctional, and what fun would that be?
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Fiscally responsible? We expect our representatives to be fiscally responsible? What's next, expecting them to put the country ahead of party? To actually work on solving the problems we face as a nation?

    OMG! Were they do do so, our government would cease to be dysfunctional, and what fun would that be?
    Hell, I would be thrilled if they just put country ahead of self.........
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Spending is the problem.

    The Marx School of PONZI Schemes is the problem.

    Parasite Nation is the problem.

    Denying reality is the problem.

    Ignorance is the problem.


    Hail to Parasite Nation... Hail!
    I agree, spending is a problem. We need to cut spending on the Millitary first. Most of that money goes to defense contractors that charge way too much for what we get. But the defense contractors have lobbiests that pay off congressmen to accept contracts that are way too high. We need to cut spending on the oil companies that have billions in profits. We need to cut spending on all corporate welare, with the exception of corporations who create jobs here in the US.

    The corporate Parasites are a huge problem, I agree. They cost us billions and do very little to help the economy. The CEOs ship jobs overseas and pay themselves millions in bonuses. Huge problem.

    Denying reality by watching Fox news is also a huge problem. Fox viewers are the most uninformed viewers in the US. Yes, ignorance is a problem, but its a free country so if the Fox news fans want to believe the manufactured news, so be it.

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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Before we start Hairytic... 46 cents of every dollar spent having to be borrowed is not due to the military. It is due to Socialism, to the omnipresent, omnipotent and inescapable destructive forces Parasite Nation breeds. Once in the vortex of Parasite Nation's spending... the solution is to...?
    Stop and phase out the ridiculous spending on Socialist schemes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hairytic View Post
    I agree, spending is a problem. We need to cut spending on the Millitary first.
    Typical Parasite Nation supporter. The only thing they ever see worth cutting is the military.

    This is about the only spending government should be involved with... defense and policing our borders... but it is what Socialists always want to cut. They want to kill the deterrent effect of a strong military. It's absurd, but that's the Socialist Left for ya.

    Most of that money goes to defense contractors that charge way too much for what we get.
    Freedom and protecting it comes with costs.

    But the defense contractors have lobbiests that pay off congressmen to accept contracts that are way too high.
    I am happy you are against lobbyists. Do you know how to get rid of them?
    Get government out of the business of handing out goodies... problem solved.

    We need to cut spending on the oil companies that have billions in profits. We need to cut spending on all corporate welare, with the exception of corporations who create jobs here in the US.
    Well... I agree... get the federal government out of business... out of socialist PONZI schemes, out of education, out of school lunches, shut the DEA and HUD and gut the EPA... OSHA... just get rid of it. Let states do their thing. If they want that stuff, they can fund it.

    The Feds should be put into the little box designed for them... strong where they should be strong (national defense) and weak where they should be weak... (all the socialist engineering crapola).

    The corporate Parasites are a huge problem, I agree. They cost us billions and do very little to help the economy. The CEOs ship jobs overseas and pay themselves millions in bonuses. Huge problem.

    Denying reality by watching Fox news is also a huge problem. Fox viewers are the most uninformed viewers in the US. Yes, ignorance is a problem, but its a free country so if the Fox news fans want to believe the manufactured news, so be it.
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Before we start Hairytic... 46 cents of every dollar spent having to be borrowed is not due to the military. It is due to Socialism, to the omnipresent, omnipotent and inescapable destructive forces Parasite Nation breeds. Once in the vortex of Parasite Nation's spending... the solution is to...?
    Stop and phase out the ridiculous spending on Socialist schemes.



    Typical Parasite Nation supporter. The only thing they ever see worth cutting is the military.

    This is about the only spending government should be involved with... defense and policing our borders... but it is what Socialists always want to cut. They want to kill the deterrent effect of a strong military. It's absurd, but that's the Socialist Left for ya.


    Freedom and protecting it comes with costs.


    I am happy you are against lobbyists. Do you know how to get rid of them?
    Get government out of the business of handing out goodies... problem solved.


    Well... I agree... get the federal government out of business... out of socialist PONZI schemes, out of education, out of school lunches, shut the DEA and HUD and gut the EPA... OSHA... just get rid of it. Let states do their thing. If they want that stuff, they can fund it.

    The Feds should be put into the little box designed for them... strong where they should be strong (national defense) and weak where they should be weak... (all the socialist engineering crapola).

    The corporate Parasites are a huge problem, I agree. They cost us billions and do very little to help the economy. The CEOs ship jobs overseas and pay themselves millions in bonuses. Huge problem.

    Denying reality by watching Fox news is also a huge problem. Fox viewers are the most uninformed viewers in the US. Yes, ignorance is a problem, but its a free country so if the Fox news fans want to believe the manufactured news, so be it.
    Throwing money at the millitary won't give us a strong defense. We should spend money wisely in all areas of spending. Now, I would be all for raising the wages of the men and women who fight for us, but paying out big money to defense contractors who jack their prices up isn't a wise way to spend money. We can lower the amount of money we spend on the military and be more effecient.
    I think it is important to spend money on social programs because we are only as strong as our weakest link. It is a benefit to society to make sure it's citizens are healthy and have the opportunity to thrive. I see spending money on social programs as an investment in our people.
    We will have to agree to disagree on this point.

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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Although we've always had debt, Obama has taken it into overdrive and there is no one to stop him. The establishment of both parties do not want to stop spending no matter what they say. Government grows every day and the private sector shrinks.
    The spending might be in overdrive because of the wars, the recession and an aging population but is the government itself really getting bigger?



    "...According to BLS data, total federal government employment was 3.103 million in January 1990. Preliminary numbers for November 2010 are 2.837 million....

    While official workforce figures have gone down in recent decades, use of government contractors has exploded, especially in the defense sector following the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    In fiscal 2000, the government spent $208 billion on contractors. In fiscal 2009, that figure was up more than 150 percent, to $540 billion.

    What does that mean for the workforce? Well, if you consider government contractors federal employees and view grantees -- like universities -- as employing people on behalf of the federal government ("Nuclear labs are run by universities, but are clearly federal agencies," said Light), the numbers have rocketed...."

    PolitiFact Virginia | Rep. Gerry Connolly says federal workforce hasn't grown since 1990

    So guess what needs to be cut if you really want a smaller government?



    As a side, I heard something on NPR radio the other day that was very interesting. The guest talking said that before the Great Depression senior citizens were the poorest segment of society. Today they are the wealthiest. Federal money spent on seniors as part of GDP is about 20.4 percent and Medicare (13.1 percent). But here's the kicker, Federal money spent on children is only about 2.5% of GDP. The reason: children can't vote and they don't have lobbyists. Children in the US are born with economic disadvantage the moment they come out of the womb. Another thing I recently heard is that based on living standards, income, health care, safety, etc, the US is not the best country to bear and raise children any more. It's not even in the top ten....instead it rates 16th down on the list....

    World's Best Countries To Be Born In For 2013

    This countries priorities are really screwed up.

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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Spending is the problem.

    The Marx School of PONZI Schemes is the problem.

    Parasite Nation is the problem.

    Denying reality is the problem.

    Ignorance is the problem.


    Hail to Parasite Nation... Hail!
    NOT funding programs you start is the problem. We began this HUGE debt that Bush created up to $13 trillion before he left office by NOT funding two wars, tax cuts for the rich (removing money from the budget) and a HUGE pharmaceutical socialist program in Medicare. When you have a party like the republicans who STILL outspend on pork barrels any democrat, then you have fiscal irresponsibility.
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