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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    Becasue Obama will never see a bill if He doesn't.
    Yes but the left says congress controls the budget. So according to that logic why is Obama talking to anyone. I know he is the commander and chief and is supposed to lead and all that, but!!!!!!
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Oh dear, this meme. Clinton contained Saddam and Iran without spending $3T and invading, giving the region to Iranian hegemony. Bush accomplished all that in a couple years.

    Why is it that conservatives only know now to invade, spend trillions and assist our mortal enemies.

    By the way, what president armed Saddam? Wait for it, wait for it . . .
    Once again you amaze me. I think he was talking about OBL, who Clinton let go.
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yes but the left says congress controls the budget. So according to that logic why is Obama talking to anyone. I know he is the commander and chief and is supposed to lead and all that, but!!!!!!
    Congress does control the budget. If Obama wants someting in/from that budget, he has to talk to Congress - especially if that Cingess opposes His policies.

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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No it means that educated people realize that we have a longterm debt problem and a more pressing shortterm growth problem, and that solving the latter will help solve the former.

    Conservatives are like ER doctors who want to treat the diabetes of a patient who came in for injuries sustained in a truck accident.
    And your going to solve that short term growth problem by throwing trillions at a problem and hope something sticks. You've already threw over 6 trillion of borrowed money at the problem with no results. Now that didn't work so lets throw another 6 trillion of borrowed money and see it that works and so on. And all along the way we need more entitlements, no spending cuts, god forbid, we need more entitlements and free stuff. The people demand more entitlements and free stuff.
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    ...don't exist.


    Perhaps wars fought "off budget" would be more accurate, or wars charged to the national MasterCard.

    Not that it matters now. The MasterCard is about to be maxed out anyway.
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    Congress does control the budget. If Obama wants someting in/from that budget, he has to talk to Congress - especially if that Cingess opposes His policies.
    He does not have to talk to congress, especially the House leader. He may go to his controlled senate and let them know what he would like and then let the senate and the house battle it out. But then Obama says he will not sign a bill that does not have tax hikes in it. So much for congress controlling much of anything.
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yes but the left says congress controls the budget. So according to that logic why is Obama talking to anyone. I know he is the commander and chief and is supposed to lead and all that, but!!!!!!
    No, the Constitution says Congress controls the budget, not the "left."

    And the POTUS is the CIC of the armed forces, not of the budget.
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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    He does not have to talk to congress, especially the House leader. He may go to his controlled senate and let them know what he would like and then let the senate and the house battle it out. But then Obama says he will not sign a bill that does not have tax hikes in it. So much for congress controlling much of anything.
    All bills for raising Revenue (that is, taxation) shall originate in the House of Representatives.

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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Perhaps wars fought "off budget" would be more accurate, or wars charged to the national MasterCard.
    They were not included in the budgetary process, but they were funded thru the approproations process.
    All of the spending was specified by law and accounted for in the appropriate CBO spending tables; none was hidden from anyone in any way.
    This process is therefore a big deal only to dimwits that might some day aspire to be halfwits.

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    Re: Govt. borrows 46 cents of every dollar it spends

    Quote Originally Posted by H. Lee White View Post
    They were not included in the budgetary process, but they were funded thru the approproations process.
    All of the spending was specified by law and accounted for in the appropriate CBO spending tables; none was hidden from anyone in any way.
    This process is therefore a big deal only to dimwits that might some day aspire to be halfwits.
    Fighting wars on credit is a big deal, particularly when the wars were unnecessary to begin with.
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