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    Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated | Fox News

    Chrysler workers who were fired or suspended two years ago after a MyFoxDetroit investigation found them drinking and goofing off during lunch break are back on the job. MyFoxDetroit first aired the footage of the Chrysler workers in September 2010. Video showed them in a park during the work day, drinking alcohol from bottles covered in brown paper bags and smoking what appeared to be marijuana.

    With the auto giant having recently received a federal taxpayer bailout, and President Obama having visited the plant where the employees worked just months earlier, Chrysler appeared to take a zero-tolerance attitude. The company fired 13 workers, and suspended two.

    But MyFoxDetroit reports that following a union-backed arbitration process, the employees were reinstated. This week, they came back to work.

    So we the taxpayers bail out the unions car companies, employees are caught drinking on their lunch break, going back to work under the influence, are fired and now they get their jobs back? And some wonder why anyone has a problem with unions?
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
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    So we the taxpayers bail out the unions car companies, employees are caught drinking on their lunch break, going back to work under the influence, are fired and now they get their jobs back? And some wonder why anyone has a problem with unions?
    What does this have to do with the bailout, looks like a negotiation between the union and the company.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What does this have to do with the bailout, looks like a negotiation between the union and the company.
    The taxpayers bailed out the struggling car company - FACT
    This was not a negotiation, this was the ruling of an arbitrator - FACT
    No way in hell these guys should have their jobs back, bailout or no.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What does this have to do with the bailout

    looks like a negotiation between the union and the company.
    Nothing really, the fact that they were bailed out simply places them under the political microscope so to say.

    Yep, although the company apparently had reservations about the move as well:
    Chrysler said in a statement that it does not support the decision to bring back the workers but would like to move on.

    “While the company does not agree with the ultimate decision of the arbitrator, we respect the grievance procedure process as outlined in the collective bargaining agreement and our relationship with the (United Auto Workers union),” the company said
    All in all a non story outside of political considerations at play. I myself work for and know of many a privatized, non union company that have reinstated employees who have demonstrated similar behavior, given they maintain quality and reliability in the near term, and sobriety in the future. A reasonable compromise depending on the individuals in question.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    I wonder how many of the executives have a few drinks during their lunch breaks.


    Tell me Hugh - is it OK to drink if your lunch is in a fine restaurant with a maitre'd and a sommelier?
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I wonder how many of the executives have a few drinks during their lunch breaks.


    Tell me Hugh - is it OK to drink if your lunch is in a fine restaurant with a maitre'd and a sommelier?
    Nope, not even if it's not on the taxpayer's dime.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
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    So we the taxpayers bail out the unions car companies, employees are caught drinking on their lunch break, going back to work under the influence, are fired and now they get their jobs back? And some wonder why anyone has a problem with unions?
    This is one of the most profound examples of circular logic I have ever seen. A MAN WAS CAUGHT DRINKING ON THE JOB SO IMMEDIATELY THE UNION IS TO BLAME. Right. Reality check on aisle 6
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    This is one of the most profound examples of circular logic I have ever seen. A MAN WAS CAUGHT DRINKING ON THE JOB SO IMMEDIATELY THE UNION IS TO BLAME. Right. Reality check on aisle 6
    This is one of the most profound examples of close-minded thinking I have ever seen. The union had nothing to do with the man getting caught drinking on the job, but they had a lot to do with him being given his job back. I wonder how many folks who are out of work and have been for some time deserve that job more than these idiots?
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    The taxpayers bailed out the struggling car company - FACT
    This was not a negotiation, this was the ruling of an arbitrator - FACT
    No way in hell these guys should have their jobs back, bailout or no.
    So what's this have to do with the bailout?

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    This is one of the most profound examples of close-minded thinking I have ever seen. The union had nothing to do with the man getting caught drinking on the job, but they had a lot to do with him being given his job back. I wonder how many folks who are out of work and have been for some time deserve that job more than these idiots?
    I'm not convinced anybody was impaired.

    If their job performance wasn't affected whats the beef?
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