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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It doesn't matter, it is their break. if they return to work and are impaired you drug test them and then fire them if they are too intoxicated to work. You don't get to fire them just for having a drink. Sorry anti-union people, but in this case the union did the right thing and showed it is actually needed because the car manufacturer stepped way out of line into [people's free time.
    They were fired but the unions got them their jobs back. It demonstrates the seriousness of the workers, their reliability and their work ethic, plus they were doing it all in a public park.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated | Fox News




    So we the taxpayers bail out the unions car companies, employees are caught drinking on their lunch break, going back to work under the influence, are fired and now they get their jobs back? And some wonder why anyone has a problem with unions?
    Wow, a handful of employees out of what 20,000 or 30,000 employees were caught having a liquid lunch? So what, haven't you ever had a glass of wine or beer with lunch? I don't think it's unique. Anyway, how do we know these employees were really reinstated as FoxNews suggests?


    Michigan is currently trying to pass a right to work law so don't you find the timing of this story a tad suspicious? Because I sure do...especially since coming from FoxNews.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Wow, a handful of employees out of what 20,000 or 30,000 employees were caught having a liquid lunch? So what, haven't you ever had a glass of wine or beer with lunch? I don't think it's unique. Anyway, how do we know these employees were really reinstated as FoxNews suggests?


    Michigan is currently trying to pass a right to work law so don't you find the timing of this story a tad suspicious? Because I sure do...especially since coming from FoxNews.
    The story occurred a year ago resulting from tips from co-workers who didn't want to work with drunks and potheads. This is the story. Chrysler Workers in Michigan Caught Smoking & Drinking - "Again" 7-14-2011 - YouTube

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The story occurred a year ago resulting from tips from co-workers who didn't want to work with drunks and potheads. This is the story. Chrysler Workers in Michigan Caught Smoking & Drinking - "Again" 7-14-2011 - YouTube
    When were the drunk, pothead employees supposedly reinstated?

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated | Fox News




    So we the taxpayers bail out the unions car companies, employees are caught drinking on their lunch break, going back to work under the influence, are fired and now they get their jobs back? And some wonder why anyone has a problem with unions?
    Are you suggesting that this kind of thing doesn't occur with non-union employees? If so then you might be interested in buying a bridge. Or how about some swampland in Florida? Beachfront property in Arizona?

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They cannot be drunk or stoned at work, which is the consequence of smoking pot or drinking. You do not get un-drunk or un-stoned as soon as your break is over.

    If they are stoned or drunk at the job, those jobs can't be very important. This is a good example of why Detroit is in the position it is today.
    Well, they could not have been terribly drunk or stoned as both are pretty obvious. You are trying to claim you get drunk off a beer or two, or even massively stoned off a joint and it lasts for hours. Really, I am a lighweight drinker. I am still pretty functional after a beer or two. Also, I did not see much proof offered aside from people claiming it was a joint or whatever. Even if it were a joint **** weed is not going to get you terribly high at all. Still, it doesn't last forever anyway and they clearly were not overly drunk or stoned as a supervisor could have clearly noted. You are making a huge issue over very little. Just the ideas you have that the moment you have a little to drink you are drunk, or even a toke off a joint will get you stoned shows you are relying on drug propaganda and BS for your opinions.

    The reason why these guys are back is because there is no proof they were drunk or stoned while working, and that the effects of any drinking clearly did not effect their performance. This is why you should not rely on interpretation and innuendo by faux news and might want to sdeal with some facts before your knee jerk reactions to union stories wrap around and show how overreactionary you really are.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    They're a HUGE insurance liability...that's the beef. If one of them is injured even if not "impaired" they must subject to drug test. The presence of alcohol in their system would be an insurance nightmare for the company. Not to mention if they are impaired they're not only putting themselves at risk, but anybody they work with as well...and if their impairment causes injury to another, that's an even BIGGER nightmare for the company.

    Perhaps it is that the insurance company is looking for any rweason, no matter how small, to avoid paying a claim. Their first thought is how can we get out of this because they don't want to ever paqy out for what they were contracted to. It is one thing if the guys were fall down drunk and clearly allowed to work when incapable of doing so safely, but if they went along through the day and no one even had the slightest idea they were intoxicated because their performance never was effected then that is a load of crap. That is something that should be taken up with the corrupt insurance companies who should be paying for accidents because that is what you pay them to do. Still, if it is a concern then it should come from the employees acting drunk or stoned when returning to work, and a drug test should follow to make solid proof. It should also stem from dangerous behavior or some form of accident and not from nothing at all. I go get in my car and drive, and if I do not do anything wrong to get pulled over a cop has no reason to stop me. There has to be a reason to investigate which there clearly was not and the unions protected the workers in this case.

    Just because i am employed by you does not mean you get to dictate everything i do on my off time.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They cannot be drunk or stoned at work, which is the consequence of smoking pot or drinking. You do not get un-drunk or un-stoned as soon as your break is over.

    If they are stoned or drunk at the job, those jobs can't be very important. This is a good example of why Detroit is in the position it is today.
    Wrong - one can drink without being drunk. Logic fail.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I'm not convinced anybody was impaired.

    If their job performance wasn't affected whats the beef?
    It used to be normal to drink moderately during the day, yet now we are act like someone has one beer and suddenly they have lost all self control, the reality isn't always meeting the perception.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by hikari View Post
    It used to be normal to drink moderately during the day, yet now we are act like someone has one beer and suddenly they have lost all self control, the reality isn't always meeting the perception.
    No, companies never used to have rules and do drug and alcohol testing.

    It is quite stupid to drink anywhere during working hours.

    In fairness, I was a union member in my younger days, and saw the union fight tooth and nail to save the jobs of serious alcoholics, which PO'd the rest of us sober folks.

    It also has no relation to the bailout, no matter the OP's opinion, which comes across as hyperbole.
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