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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Anonymous tips, anonymous employees, anonymous quotes, anonymous arbitration, anonymous reinstatements....the only thing that isn't anonymous about this story is that it came from FoxNews.
    You're not taking full advantage of the internet. Chrysler Workers Drinking: Fired Employees Reinstated At Jefferson North Plant In Detroit

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Anonymous tips, anonymous employees, anonymous quotes, anonymous arbitration, anonymous reinstatements....the only thing that isn't anonymous about this story is that it came from FoxNews.
    The story "came" from news reporters catching the employees drinking and smoking pot on their lunch break, a local Fox affiliate was who reported it. I did not see that you had actually wanted to claim the original story was not real, of course that would be idiotic. Meanwhile, you managed to ignore the following statement from Scott Garberding, posted today, not from September of last year. It literally debunks your entire asinine argument.

    You obviously need lots of remedial assistance, so here you go. From today, confirming that this "story" is real and you just can't catch a clue.
    Chrysler Blog - Response to Fox News Story Regarding Jefferson North Assembly Workers

    As you obviously need things made real simple for you, allow me to help you with a screen grab. What now? Garberding is in on this conspiracy to foist a not real story that "came" from Fox News upon the public? Yip, the asinine meter is off the chart.
    for the moron.jpg

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    She has already been shown that HUffPo story, which contains the very same link I just supplied her with. She managed to just double down on her idiotic claim, almost as if not only can't she read the English too well, but she has a mantra about Fox News and that gets in the way of, well reading and thinking too critically about the matter.

    Like I said before, this just gets more asinine the more she posts.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That says to me the union made some kind of deal and the plant held their nose.

    The workers in the lant wanted them gone.

    Does that sound like they were not affected by their drugs and booze?
    that is an opinion you have, do you have any facts? remember, you guys are the ones who wanted facts and not opinions so please don't expect me to give up my opinions and rationalizations in the argument when you cannot post facts.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    From MyFoxDetroit, which first broke the drinking-on-the-job story, a quote by a Chrysler spokesperson:

    "Chrysler Group LLC acknowledges the reinstatement of a number of employees from the Jefferson North assembly plant who were discharged from the company in September 2010 after appearing in a local TV station's story about their off-duty conduct."
    I see they've changed part of the focus from the fact that it all occurred on company premises
    into some dudes, monkeying around, "OFF DUTY,"
    which is EXACTLY how it would be handled if it were a driver,
    though I never drove for ANY company that allowed you to have alcohol on/in their property.

    Anyway, it sounds like they're going to chalk it up under PRIVATE TIME = Personal Biz

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    I don't have to wonder anything. The employees were caught drinking on their lunch break, period. Assuming that this is a violation of company policy, this should be a terminable offense. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not building vehicles that your family may be traveling in at a high rate of speed. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not operating heavy machinery that could cause injury to others. Now if this is not a violation of company policy, I would have to wonder why isn't it, unless the union is OK with this - which it appears as though they are since they filed a grievance.
    There is a process to handle allegations such as these. Apparently that process was followed.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Yet another example of unions promoting inefficiency. I saw the video of these guys, and you cannot tell me that they would be efficient workers returning to the job after doing what they were doing. As a controller in the military, I worked with many unionized air traffic controllers. They are ALWAYS less efficient at doing their jobs. They ALWAYS cost the govt more than a military controller doing the exact same work. The reason: It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to fire them for anything. They get away with oversleeping and missing work on a regular basis. They can openly defy supervisors and spread rumors that undermine the ability of the facility to accomplish the mission. In order to fire them, paper trails had to be established years prior. So I end up spending a great deal of time typing up letters of reprimand, and countless other frivolous actions instead of actually doing what I came to work to do: Promote a safe and expeditious flow of air traffic. Unions tend to make the whole operation about the union, when it isn't! Oh and btw, Chrysler isn't even an American owned company last I checked, so I'm not sure what all this talk is about Obama saving the auto industry. Italy saved Chrysler....

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is a process to handle allegations such as these. Apparently that process was followed.
    Auto workers caught consuming alcohol on their break - can't fire them.
    Teacher sexually assaults children - can't fire them.

    Gotta love unions and their "processes" don't ya?
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    yea so what?

    Did they cost the company billions? no.

    How about you look at CEO conduct.......and all the other executives.......

    And what I do off the job is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS>

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    There is a process to handle allegations such as these. Apparently that process was followed.
    Yes, the Unions argued that being drunk and stoned at work was acceptable and they won the day. A great precedent.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Let's look at the union message, here, lol. They are saying that these fellas were not a risk, nor less productive than average. Meaning? The average union worker is no more productive than someone high or buzzed.


    Can't make that **** up.
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