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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    I guess if you ignore Chrysler's own head of manufacturing, Scott Garberding, commenting on Chrysler's own website and cited by the Huff Po and Workforce, both linked by nota bene, you could rather feebly claim Fox News is the only source. It would be rather idiotic and demonstrative of a pretty short attention span to do so, but if the Kool Aid is strong enough I guess that can trump common sense. I generally find that those focused and fixated upon anti Fox News screeds and the cornucopia of rather pathetic websites also focused on the same thing, suffer from a rather limiting and myopic vision. You could say without them, there would be so much less "filler" content of countless debate boards.

    Ah well, some folks just can't see the forest through the trees. End of the day, the story is real and yet another idiotic "Fox is lying" bromide bites the dust.
    Garberding gave an interview to FoxNews last September. There is no mention of the employees or the arbitration on the Chrysler website. So when exactly were the employees supposedly reinstated?

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Garberding gave an interview to FoxNews last September. There is no mention of the employees or the arbitration on the Chrysler website. So when exactly were the employees supposedly reinstated?
    This just gets more asinine the further along it goes. Maybe you should go back to the Chrysler website and try to read it? Maybe take two or three dozen tries at it, ya know the reading? Read the reply to the supposedly not reliably true story that was posted by Garberding today? What part of the plainly printed English is it that you can't grasp? Don't worry, we have not been confused by any of this at any point along the way, so your struggles with the obvious should be amusing. But actually it is just kind of pathetic. Strong strong Kool Aid must be the cause. Because otherwise the answer is none too complementary.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

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    Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated | Fox News




    So we the taxpayers bail out the unions car companies, employees are caught drinking on their lunch break, going back to work under the influence, are fired and now they get their jobs back? And some wonder why anyone has a problem with unions?
    I can't help but wonder why no one else is checking into what all the other bailout and semi-supported company employees do on their breaks.

    I have a hard time imagining that only auto-assembly workers *ever* do *anything* that's considered *wrong*

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I can't help but wonder why no one else is checking into what all the other bailout and semi-supported company employees do on their breaks.

    I have a hard time imagining that only auto-assembly workers *ever* do *anything* that's considered *wrong*

    Everyone - is a hypocrite - for the harping.
    I'm not sure the coverage of this story really had anything to do with the bailout. My understanding at the time it was aired was that it was from an anonymous tip to the news station. We have seen several stories like this over the years here locally, workers on their lunch gathering behind a plant and getting high and drinking and then going back to work under the influence. In one case a few years ago local news snoopers were able to film some city employees availing themselves of the services of prostitutes at a public park on their lunch hour! Of course in those cases no arbitrator sided with the employees and gave them their jobs back. In any case, this kind of story does very little to boost or improve the standing of many unions to many people. In fact you could say it bolsters their case. It should be interesting to see the fall out and results of this story as it grows in the public conciseness.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    I'm not sure the coverage of this story really had anything to do with the bailout. My understanding at the time it was aired was that it was from an anonymous tip to the news station. We have seen several stories like this over the years here locally, workers on their lunch gathering behind a plant and getting high and drinking and then going back to work under the influence. In one case a few years ago local news snoopers were able to film some city employees availing themselves of the services of prostitutes at a public park on their lunch hour! Of course in those cases no arbitrator sided with the employees and gave them their jobs back. In any case, this kind of story does very little to boost or improve the standing of many unions to many people. In fact you could say it bolsters their case. It should be interesting to see the fall out and results of this story as it grows in the public conciseness.
    No - nips like this have been going on since the bailouts began: because of the bailouts (as is evident from the journalistic harping on the 'we bailed them out and look what they're doing) over the years.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    No - nips like this have been going on since the bailouts began: because of the bailouts (as is evident from the journalistic harping on the 'we bailed them out and look what they're doing) over the years.
    Actually nope, the original reporting on this had nothing to do with the bailouts as the links in this thread prove. The attaching of this story to the bailouts and 'look what they are doing' comes from the author of the OP and others after the fact.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You have to wonder why you have a problem with due process.
    I don't have to wonder anything. The employees were caught drinking on their lunch break, period. Assuming that this is a violation of company policy, this should be a terminable offense. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not building vehicles that your family may be traveling in at a high rate of speed. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not operating heavy machinery that could cause injury to others. Now if this is not a violation of company policy, I would have to wonder why isn't it, unless the union is OK with this - which it appears as though they are since they filed a grievance.
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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    I don't have to wonder anything. The employees were caught drinking on their lunch break, period. Assuming that this is a violation of company policy, this should be a terminable offense. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not building vehicles that your family may be traveling in at a high rate of speed. I would get fired from my job if I was caught drinking on my break and I'm not operating heavy machinery that could cause injury to others. Now if this is not a violation of company policy, I would have to wonder why isn't it, unless the union is OK with this - which it appears as though they are since they filed a grievance.
    Toyota recently had a lot of recalls for defective cars. Now I can't help but wonder if all their non-union employees were drunk and stoned when they built all those cars.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    I'm not sure the coverage of this story really had anything to do with the bailout. My understanding at the time it was aired was that it was from an anonymous tip to the news station. We have seen several stories like this over the years here locally, workers on their lunch gathering behind a plant and getting high and drinking and then going back to work under the influence. In one case a few years ago local news snoopers were able to film some city employees availing themselves of the services of prostitutes at a public park on their lunch hour! Of course in those cases no arbitrator sided with the employees and gave them their jobs back. In any case, this kind of story does very little to boost or improve the standing of many unions to many people. In fact you could say it bolsters their case. It should be interesting to see the fall out and results of this story as it grows in the public conciseness.
    Anonymous tips, anonymous employees, anonymous quotes, anonymous arbitration, anonymous reinstatements....the only thing that isn't anonymous about this story is that it came from FoxNews.

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    Re: Chrysler workers canned for drinking on the job reinstated

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I can't help but wonder why no one else is checking into what all the other bailout and semi-supported company employees do on their breaks.

    I have a hard time imagining that only auto-assembly workers *ever* do *anything* that's considered *wrong*

    Everyone - is a hypocrite - for the harping.
    Maybe all those banksters were just drunk....
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