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Ann Coulter Says GOP Should Give In To Obama On Taxes: 'We Lost The Election'

And who are you to determine the libertarian view anyway, are you a representative of the Libertarian partly or philosophy? How libertarian philosophy applies to American politics is largely subjective.

The better question is do you believe the libertarian view is to have government get MORE involved with subsidies with ONE industry but not another. That to me goes against the very view of libertarianism. Show me where I am wrong there.
 
I think subsidies should stop ALONG with releasing restrictions on domestic oil. I do believe that would satisfy both of your claims. Tell me if I am wrong.

Yes, that would be a solution I would be for. But's difficult in this political climate to get everything you want.
 
The better question is do you believe the libertarian view is to have government get MORE involved with subsidies with ONE industry but not another. That to me goes against the very view of libertarianism. Show me where I am wrong there.
For me, that is the general rule to go by, but sometimes it is an impossible goal for the immediate future because of the political/economical climate. Since there are hundreds of thousands of aspects that are not libertarian about our government the direct libertarian approach isn't always the best option unless other conditions are also met.

I practice an applied libertarian-ism to our American government. I have no desire to start a revolution and burn the Constitution so I can resurrect a new libertarian society.
 
I have no desire to start a revolution and burn the Constitution so I can resurrect a new libertarian society.

A libertarian society for me would be one that follows the constitution so I don't see a distinction from the two.
 
No, there wasn't any doubt except of course by those that were too dumb to realize it. Obama provided proof of birth in the U.S. yet others chose to be ignorant of it because of party line. Of course to those of party line right it wasn't proven. Their asses got handed to them over it as well and proven they were of the same lines as those that thought 9/11 was due to Bush.

Apparently you don't know that the questions regarding the birthplace of Barry Obama were raised by the Democrats during the Hillary Clinton campaign. But, overall, i agree with you on their lack of intelligence.
Nope, I didn't prove your point as Obama was qualified LEGALLY to be president of the U.S. Although I didn't think he should be president of the U.S. for a second term, and I even voted against him by voting Johnson, he is still QUALIFIED LEGALLY.

You may be right and in fact I don't care one way or the other. I do believe though that people have the right, and in fact the duty, to raise these questions.
I was RAISED Roman Catholic, went to all the schools etc. I do not consider myself to be Roman Catholic. THAT is what is important. Being raised a religion or even recognized by a religion MEANS NOTHING if you do not follow the religion. Even someone lioke you should recognize that fact. It doesn't matter what OTHERS think about you only what YOU BELIEVE.

There is a substantial difference between Roman Catholicism and Islam.Some of those differences are explained here.President Apostate? - New York Times

So you believe Romney should have opened up ALL his tax returns do you?

If they are relevant and there are questions being raised, yes I do.
Funny how most conservatives believed (and including me) that Romney shouldn't have had to release ALL his tax returns. Why do you feel different about that?

I feel his recent tax returns were relevant.
The point of the video was to somehow say that it is ok for division as long as the right is in agreement to it. Why do you feel it is ok for division if YOUR side says it is ok?

You'd have to provide an example for me to understand your point .

You're right. The common person wouldn't believe the lies that are told to them. You are not the common man. I recognize that BOTH sides are at fault. You somehow think YOUR side is not at fault.

We can never be quite sure of truths or lies. I'm willing to have my opinions tested.
 
Ann Coulter Says GOP Should Give In To Obama On Taxes: 'We Lost The Election' (VIDEO)

"OK fine, let's do that, but in the end, at some point, if the Bush tax cuts are repealed and everyone's taxes go up, I promise you Republicans will get blamed for it," she said. "It doesn't mean you cave on everything, but there are some things Republicans do that feed into what the media is telling America about Republicans."

Someone knocked Ann off the tracks! She rips hannity a new one on this. When Ann coulter says crazy is over you better damn well listen.

I'd be happy to give in on taxes, in exchance for Obama approving the Keystone Pipeline and natural gas is allowed to resume operations. Energy independence is more important than taxes.
 
Funny I haven't seen you say his presidency was a disaster like it was. Sounds like a Bush supporter to me. Care to prove me wrong and show me where you have faulted Bush in his disaster presidency?

Nice "logic"

The last time I checked Barack Obama is the current president. His policies are currently the discussion. You just want to try and paint me in a box because you can't debate the actual facts. I don't play those childish games. Bush hasn't been President for 4 years. Stop running to Bush every time you can't just dismiss yet another Obama failure. It makes you look weak intellectually.

George W. Bush spent too much money. TARP was a huge scam. President Barack Obama was given half of TARP to spend. He promptly flushed it down the toilet and then tried to illegally grab more, even though specific wording in the legislation was put in there to prevent him from doing that. As is usual for Obama, he tried to go around the law. It's called corruption.

As usual you continue your lies about me as I have in numerous threads (even replying to you) that I have criticized Obama. Which is the reason I didn't vote for Obama this last election. Let me guess though, you believed in the GOP lies and voted Romney.

More emotional arguments, canards, red herrings, lies, and obfuscation. I feel like I'm debating a 5 year old.

Nope I didn't refute what you said, because I said and I quote:

Notice you didn't specifically say Obama. You made a broad generalized statement to try and give yourself some cover, and then you attack anyone who criticizes Obama's failed policies, his corruption, his reckless spending, ect.

This is going to be the 5th year in a row we have a trillion dollar deficit. Obama has been illegally spending at TARP levels of expenditures for 4 years now. The Senate won't pass a budget. Obama won't propose a responsible budget. When this is pointed out, you scream at people they support Bush, and then spend page after page with deflection/obfuscation tactics. It's hilarious.

Sorry, the only sheep here is you because you don't ever say anything against YOUR side. At least I have the guts to say BOTH sides (really all sides) have issues. YOU are the Sheep. BAAAAAAH

What side am I on?

The Constitution

Limited Government

A sensible fiscal policy

A welfare system with some accountability

Economic Growth. Not negligible GDP growth, massive deficits, massive growth in the welfare state, ect.

So I'm not really sure why someone should "pick sides". This isn't about "picking sides". It's about reality. The cold hard truth. We're broke. We're borrowing 46 cents for every dollar we spend. Obama is spending 5.60$ for every 1$ of genuine wealth created in the private economy and you're running around these forums embarrassing yourself screaming "Bush".

BAAAAHH


Democrats have abandoned traditional american economic principles in favor of Collectivist/Socialist policies that inhibit economic growth. There is no "side" to pick. They've marched off into la la land. 200T in unfunded liabilities. So go ahead and cry about Bush. You can't refute the cold hard facts.

Funny since I have criticized Obama and didn't even vote for him (Along with supporting Romney for not releasing his tax records as I don't think he should have) yet again in replying to YOUR own threads. So the only explanation for your quotes is you are ignorant and haven't read anything I have said or you are a liar. Take your pick.

Congratulations.

Doesn't change the fact you're whining about Bush after he left office 4 years and my point stands.

If Obama was caught eating babies and having sex with corpses, his cult followers would either blame Bush or the GOP.

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I'd be happy to give in on taxes, in exchance for Obama approving the Keystone Pipeline and natural gas is allowed to resume operations. Energy independence is more important than taxes.

the taxes thing is a necessity, their is no bargaining for a necessity. As for the pipeline that whole thing is a BS profiteering thing for texas. put the refineries in the north and then ship the gasoline from there. Why the hell do we need to push the oil all the way to texas? Oh yeah, probably because texas made the biggest bribe. Well screw their asses and the pipeline doesn't have to go across the whole country to a bunch of redneck idiots who think jesus rode a dinosaur and who want to get out of this country.
 
the taxes thing is a necessity, their is no bargaining for a necessity. As for the pipeline that whole thing is a BS profiteering thing for texas. put the refineries in the north and then ship the gasoline from there. Why the hell do we need to push the oil all the way to texas? Oh yeah, probably because texas made the biggest bribe. Well screw their asses and the pipeline doesn't have to go across the whole country to a bunch of redneck idiots who think jesus rode a dinosaur and who want to get out of this country.

Do you realize installing new refineries in the north for one pipeline isn't worth the cost? Texas has the most oil refineries already... we aren't going to install 30 new refineries in north Dakota just because you dislike Texas.

Energy independence is far more of a necessity than 3% taxes on 1% of Americans.
 
Do you realize installing new refineries in the north for one pipeline isn't worth the cost? Texas has the most oil refineries already... we aren't going to install 30 new refineries in north Dakota just because you dislike Texas.

Energy independence is far more of a necessity than 3% taxes on 1% of Americans.

yeah yeah, make some jobs and put some refineries in the north. oh what, all of a sudden we do not want diversified supply chains and jobs? No instead we will put a gigantic leaky terrorist target running across the entire middle of the country just so texas can get employment. If that is what needs to be done then screw the entire project. I am all for not investing in texas. They are a bunch of traitorous people who want to jump ship on america anyway, why should we give them more control over our gasoline refinement? just for their traitorous talk I say we remove as much reliance on their state as we can and give it to some patriots.
 
yeah yeah, make some jobs and put some refineries in the north. oh what, all of a sudden we do not want diversified supply chains and jobs? No instead we will put a gigantic leaky terrorist target running across the entire middle of the country just so texas can get employment. If that is what needs to be done then screw the entire project. I am all for not investing in texas. They are a bunch of traitorous people who want to jump ship on america anyway, why should we give them more control over our gasoline refinement? just for their traitorous talk I say we remove as much reliance on their state as we can and give it to some patriots.

Oh now I get it.

Its one of those drunken troll nights right?
 
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