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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet, it's not the states which create the benefits and rights which have come with marriage from the federal government. Why is that? It's like saying the car is yours simply because you drive it.
    THis does not change that historically, it has been up to states to determine who they will marry and what the process for marriage is.
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    I support legalized polygamy.
    Ever watch that show with the mormon polygamist group in Las Vegas? The one where the guy looks like a washed up surfer? HOLY CRAP! if that is the polygamist lifestyle, than I don't think there is too much danger of it taking over the country.

    That poor guy, those women are nuts! I bet he has to listen to them go on about their feelings and crap for 14 hours a day and go "yes dear!" "yes dear!" "yes dear!". Why anyone would choose to live like that is beyond me. Plus all those women have to spend their entire time holding back their feelings of jealousy towards the other wives and trying not to be petty.

    Oh well. Nobody is happy on that show.

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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Expalin how scrutiny or compeling interest allows a male or female to hold exactly the same position and pay yet the male must qualify at a higher/different physical standard. Why is it Constitutional to ask a male to be more "physically qualified" to operate a radio or typewriter than a female? This is the most obvious case of diascrimination possible yet it is "fair' and"just". What about the draft? Is it reasonable to force military service on only the male population? Females want equal pay for less physically demamnding service, and more restricted duty assignments. Let the situation be reversed and the feminists would scream "discrimination", and rightfully so. If "separate but equal" was used for gays, blacks or age it would be "unconstitutional" yet if the "advantage" is not whites/males then all is well. Hmm...
    Because physical fitness standards measure individual health. They are not a measure of whether each person can do everything specifically necessary to do the job. This is also why there are different requirements for different age groups. Physically, women on average are built different than men on average so they will have different standards.

    However, there is no physical requirements within marriage. The only legal requirements of the contract itself (not talking about who can enter the contract) are gender neutral.
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I doubt it. Loving involved discrimination based only on race which took a constituional amendment to enforce, this involves "choice" or "preference". At what point does "preference" become an overriding factor to state law? If something is not mentioned in the constitution as a federal power, then it is rightly left to the states. If I prefer to drink in a bar on sunday, marry two people or to gamble in a casino does that make it a right? If one state allows or condones something then must all others?
    You are partially right Ttwtt....but wrong about one KEY holding in Loving. The Loving court found marriage to be a "Fundamental right". Although the case dealt with race, the court, nevertheless found marriage to be a "fundamental right"....that is something that gay marriage foes are going to have a hard time overcoming.
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I doubt it. Loving involved discrimination based only on race which took a constituional amendment to enforce, this involves "choice" or "preference". At what point does "preference" become an overriding factor to state law? If something is not mentioned in the constitution as a federal power, then it is rightly left to the states. If I prefer to drink in a bar on sunday, marry two people or to gamble in a casino does that make it a right? If one state allows or condones something then must all others?
    And same sex marriage bans involve discrimination based on sex/gender, not sexuality. The Lovings didnt have to be with each other. They only had to be the races they were born as, and no one should have to change their race to get married. Well same sex couples dont have to be with each other either. But they are born the sex they are born and they shouldnt have to change their gender to legally get married.

    Would a law that said people with blonde hair cannot marry people with red hair be constitutional? But a provisionin it only applies to a persons hair color during marriage, meaning either the blonde or red head in the couple could dye their hair for them to be married?
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Although I really hope that SCOTUS pronounces DOMA DOA, the court's conservative majority has me kinda nervous. Homosexuals are the final class of individuals who can be and routinely are denied constitutional equality. I hope to see that change in my lifetime.
    The Court doesn't have a conservative majority. It is conservative in some areas (affirmative action, campaign finance, guns, business) and not in others (gay rights, abortion, punishment of juveniles, Gitmo and the rights of so-called enemy combatants, pornography).

    I don't think you have anything to worry about with regard to DOMA. The Prop 8 case is the question mark. Will the Court's liberals and moderate/libertarian members be willing to strike down the laws of 30+ states? Fortunately, there is an out with the standing question that will still have the effect of nullifying the proposition if they aren't willing to go there yet.

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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not going to do that anyway. But they can add to stability in their community as a married couple.
    And raise unwanted children in loving households, if they so choose.

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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    im praying for equal rights!

    itll be a proud day when america once again rids itself of some more discrimination and gains more equality and freedoms!
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

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    They cannot reproduce and bring forth the next generation of taxpayers.
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    They cannot reproduce and bring forth the next generation of taxpayers.
    They can't? Doesn't the fact that 1/4 of all gay men have children kinda disprove this? What about lesbians? About 1/3 of them have kids.
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