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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The legal issues interest me more than the money, though the CBO report didn't really address spousal benefits to SS military couples which might be the bigger expense. Frankly, if one state says you are legally married there, then other states and feds should be forced to recognize it through full faith and credit clause. I have always thought that was the better argument than equal protection on the issue.
    With or without marriage being legal, the military now is looking to try to offer same sex couples equal benefits. The military recognizes that there are major problems with accepting one set of couples, while not recognizing a different set, especially now that DADT is gone. And the military considers family important to the morale and wellbeing of the troops. Same sex spouses are family.

    They are restricted legally by DOMA, but DOMA will not last. It can't. Whether it goes down by the Court this year or goes down by federal legislation, the tide has already turned that a majority wants at the very least equal federal benefits for same sex couples. Within the next 5 years, I predict we will see DOMA gone, if not sooner. The state laws may last longer, depending on how the SCOTUS rules on Prop 8, but I see them gone within a decade or two.
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No one is against gay rights, that is what you on the left forget............We just don't want the definition of marriage changed............call it anyhting you want............give them every right a straight has..........just don't defile straight marriage............is that to hard?
    Oh puh-lease NP. If you could, you would personally prevent every gay person from having ANY rights. You were completely against civil unions until the reality of gay marriage was staring you in the face....now all of a sudden you are ok with Civil Unions. Well....you know what.....marriage equality is coming in 2013, so you'd better get used to it. Answer this question NP, what defiles "marriage" more.....gays marrying the person that they love or people committing adultry? I would suspect that straights have done more to defile the institution of marriage more than gays ever will.
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No one is against gay rights, that is what you on the left forget............We just don't want the definition of marriage changed............call it anyhting you want............give them every right a straight has..........just don't defile straight marriage............is that to hard?
    Seriously? A definition. Real people are suffering and someone, ANYONE, cares more about a definition. This is just a buzzword, a euphemism to disguise the bigotry. Who could possibly care more about a definition, an arbitrary mental classification, than the actual problems that people face? It's insane. It's nonsense. It's a lie. There is no way to live past twelve and be that completely lacking in basic human empathy. The only kind of person who could care about definitions more than real people's problems is a sociopath.

    So please, can we lay this nonsense to rest? No one actually buys this argument, on either side. It's proven to be factually false, since there is no "definition of marriage" the way it's presented here, nor is any notion of marriage universal among cultures, timeframes, or even within our culture. It's a false argument, and it's an insane one. Can we please stop trotting out this swill?
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Are you kidding me? Just let one more Conservative Justice get on the court and you will see.
    Thank GOD for Obama.....that is never going to happen in your lifetime or even mine. Obama's re-election saved the Supreme Court from falling into the hands of right-wing activists that seek to undermine our Constitution.
    Obama will get at least one more appointment, probably 2, quite possibly 3 and an outside chance of even 4. The Supreme Court is saved for the next generation.
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    Re: Supreme Court will tackle same-sex marriage

    It sounds like Scalia has already made up his mind.

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