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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    ...Anyone on this board who is familiar with my posts knows that I truly have no political affiliation other than commonsense and equality.
    It would seem to me that right-to-work would promote the equality you espouse. It does not prohibit organization but rather gives those who DON'T want to participate more 'equality'. But of course I could be wrong...

    ...and for reference don't 'elections have consequences'?
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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Good for Michigan. You shouldn't be forced to join a union as a condition of employment.

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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    It would seem to me that right-to-work would promote the equality you espouse.
    The loss of collective bargaining is going to promote and support equality for workers? How is that?

    Here's a quick anecdote. In my younger days I had a pay dispute with my employer. I was not paid what I was told I would make, in writing, no less. I elected to join the union when I was hired. I did not have to join.

    I like to handle my own affairs, stand-up and speak for myself. In this instance it got me nowhere. I talked to management and HR until I was blue in the face. Being new and young they were not in the least bit threatened. They had no intention of honoring their written commitment to me. I eventually swallowed my pride and contacted the union rep via phone early one morning. By the end of the workday my boss's secretary handed me an envelope with a letter of acknowledging the "mistake" and guaranteeing my new adjusted salary and a check for the backpay that was rightfully mine.

    Right to Work would have helped me how?

    It does not prohibit organization but rather gives those who DON'T want to participate more 'equality'.
    I don't see how.

    ...and for reference don't 'elections have consequences'?
    Yes, they are called political mandates from the electorate.










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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The loss of collective bargaining is going to promote and support equality for workers? How is that?

    Yes, they are called political mandates from the electorate.
    And the electorate spoke. They shot down an amendment solidifying collective bargaining rules less than a month ago 60-40.

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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Michigan GOP pushes right to work; Zorn against | MonroeNews.com

    It is incredible this now. I'm not sure the state is ready for this...opinions?

    ps. I'm betting Haymarket's head is about to explode about right now...

    I hope it passes. If I want to be a police officer, public school teacher, or any other public sector employee I shouldn't have to join a union in order to get the job.
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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The loss of collective bargaining is going to promote and support equality for workers? How is that?
    How does RTW passage cause the ‘loss of collective bargaining’?

    Here's a quick anecdote. In my younger days I had a pay dispute with my employer. I was not paid what I was told I would make, in writing, no less. I elected to join the union when I was hired. I did not have to join.
    This has nothing to do with collective bargaining, unionization or RTW. IF your agreement was in writing as you state you had an EXCELLENT lawsuit unless there is other information regarding a legitimate reason you were not performing in compliance with said written agreement you failed to provide in you anecdote…

    Yes, they are called political mandates from the electorate.
    EXACTLY…hence the passage of RTW in Michigan…
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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    I can't find the actual text of either version of the bill online--even on the Michigan legislatures website. I've heard mention that Union dues would be voluntary and a lot about how much unions had done re: minimum wage and 8 hour work days

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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Who is continuing, even after the election, to attempt to ramrod female reproduction control down the throats of America?
    I didn't realize that there was any political party that was trying to control a females reproduction choices. Last time I checked, a woman still had the choice of whether or not to have sex, and if so, could easily obtain birth control pills. So tell me, who is trying to outlaw women from having sex, and/or trying to outlaw birth control pills, and could you please link me to the proposed legislation?

    Unless you are referring to Republicans opposing the government giving out free birth control pills through Obamacare... If that's the case, then you have again shoveled more dishonest liberal talking points.


    It is thus no surprise to me that these same people who would deny equal rights to women
    What specific rights are Republicans denying women?


    and to people who are disabled
    What specific rights are Republicans denying the disabled?


    would also deny rights to American workers.
    What specific rights are Republicans denying American workers?

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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I hope it passes. If I want to be a police officer, public school teacher, or any other public sector employee I shouldn't have to join a union in order to get the job.
    If I read the story correctly, it won't effect public sector unions.

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    Re: Michigan House passes right-to-work law

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    The loss of collective bargaining is going to promote and support equality for workers? How is that?

    Here's a quick anecdote. In my younger days I had a pay dispute with my employer. I was not paid what I was told I would make, in writing, no less. I elected to join the union when I was hired. I did not have to join.

    I like to handle my own affairs, stand-up and speak for myself. In this instance it got me nowhere. I talked to management and HR until I was blue in the face. Being new and young they were not in the least bit threatened. They had no intention of honoring their written commitment to me. I eventually swallowed my pride and contacted the union rep via phone early one morning. By the end of the workday my boss's secretary handed me an envelope with a letter of acknowledging the "mistake" and guaranteeing my new adjusted salary and a check for the backpay that was rightfully mine.

    Right to Work would have helped me how?



    I don't see how.



    Yes, they are called political mandates from the electorate.
    If you have a written offer or guarantee of pay (and even if you don't) you can go to the state labor department and file a complaint against your employer. My dad did it and received what he was owed in less than 2 weeks. Once employers receive a letter from the state saying they're being investigated they usually rectify their "error".
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