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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    Mubarak had already made plans for a departure. It was to be in the fall not during the "arab" spring.
    An organized departure on his part would have enabled his and the military's hand picked replacement
    improve the situation in Egypt and avoid this kind of conflict - it certainly would have helped keep
    islamic extremist from creating a sharia backed constitution.

    The uprisng that ousted Mubarak wasn't about freedom and power by the way - it was about food.
    The people were starving. That is what happens when a drought occurs; famine follows and the
    masses in Egypt were in deed starving - look it up. The US could have helped with that to give
    Mubarak the time needed to make the transfer of power to a new government, but we have
    a pop star that needs attention and made the decision to publicly call for Mubarak to leave at
    the height of the protests. That frenzy helped make it happen - the pop star even thinks he's
    responsible for appealing to the masses.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What could the US have done differently to avoid this situation?

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    Such an evolved people.

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    And people worried the Egyptian military was not being democratic enough. *oops*
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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually Obama has not been silent on this issue...
    Obama tells Morsi violence in Egypt 'unacceptable'
    "The White House says President Barack Obama has called Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi to express "deep concern" about the deaths and injuries of protesters in Egypt.

    A White House statement says the president told Morsi that he and other political leaders in Egypt must make clear to their supporters that violence is unacceptable.

    The statement Thursday night said that Obama welcomed Morsi's call for a dialogue with opposition leaders in Egypt but stressed that such a dialogue should occur without preconditions. "
    Rape and murder is "unacceptable"?

    And if it continues he will issue another strongly worded statement. That should send the Brotherhood reeling.

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    The Muslim Brotherhood is not monolithic.
    They are certainly moving in that direction, and with more than a little success.

    They have played the West like a finely tuned oud.

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Mubarak had already made plans for a departure. It was to be in the fall not during the "arab" spring.
    An organized departure on his part would have enabled his and the military's hand picked replacement
    improve the situation in Egypt and avoid this kind of conflict - it certainly would have helped keep
    islamic extremist from creating a sharia backed constitution.

    The uprisng that ousted Mubarak wasn't about freedom and power by the way - it was about food.
    The people were starving. That is what happens when a drought occurs; famine follows and the
    masses in Egypt were in deed starving - look it up. The US could have helped with that to give
    Mubarak the time needed to make the transfer of power to a new government, but we have
    a pop star that needs attention and made the decision to publicly call for Mubarak to leave at
    the height of the protests. That frenzy helped make it happen - the pop star even thinks he's
    responsible for appealing to the masses.
    Do you have some sources? Like a source that says Egyptians were suffering a famine at the time, or that Mubarak had planned to leave in the fall? I found several sources that say food prices in Egypt had inflated before during and after the revolution, but that doesn't equate to a famine or a drought.

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    It wasn't like Russia was being "mean" they just had a major drought and needed it for themselves
    Egypt's Russian wheat dispute shakes world grain market - The National


    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Do you have some sources? Like a source that says Egyptians were suffering a famine at the time, or that Mubarak had planned to leave in the fall? I found several sources that say food prices in Egypt had inflated before during and after the revolution, but that doesn't equate to a famine or a drought.

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It wasn't like Russia was being "mean" they just had a major drought and needed it for themselves
    Egypt's Russian wheat dispute shakes world grain market - The National
    I'm aware that food prices had inflated prior to the revolution, but that does not equate to a famine.

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    BBC News - Russia to impose temporary ban on grain exports

    The need for food can be quite motivating. One of the reason I disagree with libertarians about just dropping many US government
    "programs" for the poor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I'm aware that food prices had inflated prior to the revolution, but that does not equate to a famine.

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    Re: Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood accused of paying gangs to rape women[W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Do you have some sources? Like a source that says Egyptians were suffering a famine at the time, or that Mubarak had planned to leave in the fall? I found several sources that say food prices in Egypt had inflated before during and after the revolution, but that doesn't equate to a famine or a drought.
    Most Egyptians live on $2 a day and are unemployed.. It boiled over.

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