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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I agree and in Egypt's case, they've demonstrated that they're not going to tolerate any bull****. Hopefully the will of the people can outlast the will of the jihadis.
    Even if the jihadis win for a while, the people (especially the women) are not going back. The kind of brutality required for such is simply not tolerated, unless the regime has nukes; then, there's little we can do to help.

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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Even if the jihadis win for a while, the people (especially the women) are not going back. The kind of brutality required for such is simply not tolerated, unless the regime has nukes; then, there's little we can do to help.
    Well, I'm not as optimistic as you are, but we'll see. I hope you're right.
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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    There is nothing more ignorant than the loons that think that in every country the indigenous people yearn for freedom and self-determination.

    Certainly with Obama in power, we yearn for those things in the United States.

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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It doesn't matter if a weapon is allegedly outdated, it can still be a threat to our troops.Weapons can be modified,upgraded,used against our allies,innocent civilians or used for something outside their origingal use.
    Oh, c'mon. They're gonna MacGyver an AT4 into what... a stealth ICBM?

    Then send our own forces or ask a country who cares to send in a force to bomb their airforce if we are that worried that a dictator is bombing his own people.
    We wiped out Gaddafi's airforce. I'm not sure why we have not done the same to Assad.

    We shouldn't be supplying other countries or groups with weapons period.
    This is nonsense. The US sells weapons. That's not gonna change. Don't worry, we're not gonna sell 'em stealth or space shuttles.

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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    U.S.-Approved Weapons Transfer Ended Up With Libyan Jihadis - NYTimes.com



    They raided the consulate in Benghazi and killed our Ambassador with weapons provided to them by the Obama Administration

    There's more



    Apparently the same tactic has been deployed in Syria, where terrorists groups have been armed with US made surface to air missiles.
    Color me not surprised. If there's ever a major coup, you can bet Uncle Sam was there.
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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    I'd like to note that presuming the badguys can MacGyver anything negates caring about what they had. They woulda got something somewhere. A shoelace, a thimble, lightbulb and *bam* tactical nuke. Think they couldn't get stuff from other places? Are we gonna pretend that this attack could not have happened were it not for those specific weapons? Nonsense.

    Ok, I think we're done. Anyone wanna talk about all the "terrible" stuff that Bush did? I don't see where else this thread can go... CT? We can do the "look at Bush" thing, but I'm not really interested in the "Obama is intentionally supplying terrorists" angle beyond a laugh or two.

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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'd like to note that presuming the badguys can MacGyver anything negates caring about what they had. They woulda got something somewhere. A shoelace, a thimble, lightbulb and *bam* tactical nuke. Think they couldn't get stuff from other places? Are we gonna pretend that this attack could not have happened were it not for those specific weapons? Nonsense.
    Well that certainly removes all culpability. The North Koreans are going to torture and kill millions this year, may as well give them the stuff to do it since they'll get it anyway.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Well that certainly removes all culpability. The North Koreans are going to torture and kill millions this year, may as well give them the stuff to do it since they'll get it anyway.
    Claiming that the weapons facilitated the attack is just a fallacy to note. That fallacy is not the basis of Obama being justified. You've taken a minor side note, which was intended to head off full-on CT, and pretended it's the basis for Obama's defense.

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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Claiming that the weapons facilitated the attack is just a fallacy to note. That being a fallacy is not the basis of Obama being justified. You've taken a minor side note, to head off full-on CT, and pretended it's the basis for Obama's defense.
    They killed innocent people with American arms. Doesn't matter where they were going to get the weapons from, the problem is that they got weapons from us.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: U.S.-Approved Arms for Libya Rebels Fell Into Jihadisí Hands

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    They killed innocent people with American arms. Doesn't matter where they were going to get the weapons from, the problem is that they got weapons from us.
    I disagree. I think the problem is that terrorists are gonna use whatever they can get, black market and otherwise, to kill innocent people. But hey, blaming the tool works too.

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