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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I know that a 15% wealth tax with a million dollar deductable would raise nearly 8 Trillion dollars and pay back half our debt. Does that count?

    Then you are for the confiscation of private property. A "wealth tax" is just that, and not just unconstitutional, but communist in nature.
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I know that a 15% wealth tax with a million dollar deductable would raise nearly 8 Trillion dollars and pay back half our debt. Does that count?
    Just what, in our Constitution, allows for the federal gov't to simply take property from private citizens and "pay themselves back" for money borrowed and spent?
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't recall being either republican or awol, but I know that we haven't had a Conservative in the office since Reagan, and that's the problem.
    Reagan was no conservative now Eisenhower was that was the last one! Pick up a history book and read. Reagan tripled the debt raised taxes 11 times and expanded the government. Oh and gave amnesty. Reagan would have been a Democrate today and probably be accused of being a socialist by thr whacko right wing that runs the party now.

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Reagan was no conservative now Eisenhower was that was the last one! Pick up a history book and read. Reagan tripled the debt raised taxes 11 times and expanded the government. Oh and gave amnesty. Reagan would have been a Democrate today and probably be accused of being a socialist by thr whacko right wing that runs the party now.
    If all that is true, why isnt Reagan a leftist icon?

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Someone earning $200k would not pay more if the House would pass the bill in front of them.
    You're problem is you got spoiled by those TEMPORARY Tax cuts and now you think the party will go on forever.
    The parties over and we are broke because of it. Stop the whining
    so you want everyone to pay more-that at least is more honest than those who think the middle class have no duty to pay more

    the party goes on for ever for everyone but the rich. The rich are paying much of your load and much of the load of everyone else

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then you are for the confiscation of private property. A "wealth tax" is just that, and not just unconstitutional, but communist in nature.
    most wealth is nothing more than taxed income converted to property. IT is a disgusting concept to have a wealth tax. it should be an immediate career ending event for a politician to promote such a concept

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    Reagan was no conservative now Eisenhower was that was the last one! Pick up a history book and read.
    You have this wrong.

    Reagan tripled the debt raised taxes 11 times and expanded the government.
    Who in our government is responsible for spending?

    Oh and gave amnesty.
    On a 'Lucy and the Football' deal from liar demos.

    Reagan would have been a Democrate today and probably be accused of being a socialist by thr whacko right wing that runs the party now.
    And you want those that disagree with you to 'pick up a history book'? Good Lord woman, I'd tell you to put down the propaganda pamphlet.
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Someone earning $200k would not pay more if the House would pass the bill in front of them.
    You're problem is you got spoiled by those TEMPORARY Tax cuts and now you think the party will go on forever.
    The parties over and we are broke because of it. Stop the whining
    Everyone that thinks that simply raising federal taxation, from 17% of GDP to 18% of GDP, will "fix" the federal defict ignores the fact that the federal gov't now spends 24% of GDP and that spending is headed sharply up as more boomers retire and PPACA kicks in.
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    If all that is true, why isnt Reagan a leftist icon?
    Because Democrats know that him and his neocon buddies piled on the debt and continued the practice for 20 years! Thats why

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You have this wrong.



    Who in our government is responsible for spending?



    On a 'Lucy and the Football' deal from liar demos.



    And you want those that disagree with you to 'pick up a history book'? Good Lord woman, I'd tell you to put down the propaganda pamphlet.
    Pretty sure you havent pick up a history book in awhile.

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