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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's difficult to believe but the evidence keeps growing, doesn't it? How else to explain it?

    I just don't know anymore....I mean, take a look in here at the level of posting. The contempt, the hatred, the total revision of what is said, sometimes within the same page of a thread, the obfuscation. The increase of more radicalized leftest poster, more progressives hiding their true leans. The defense of Obama even in the face of liberal media outlets saying the opposite. More and more people that I have known for a long time in here have turned more shrill, and short in their responses....

    This can only be explained by one thing, the country as a whole is wedging further apart, and more caustic, and this imho, is being done deliberately by Obama, and progressives, to destroy the republican party, I think that is behind this manufactured fiscal cliff, and everything behind the motive of Obama, and progressives.
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I just don't know anymore....I mean, take a look in here at the level of posting. The contempt, the hatred, the total revision of what is said, sometimes within the same page of a thread, the obfuscation. The increase of more radicalized leftest poster, more progressives hiding their true leans. The defense of Obama even in the face of liberal media outlets saying the opposite. More and more people that I have known for a long time in here have turned more shrill, and short in their responses....

    This can only be explained by one thing, the country as a whole is wedging further apart, and more caustic, and this imho, is being done deliberately by Obama, and progressives, to destroy the republican party, I think that is behind this manufactured fiscal cliff, and everything behind the motive of Obama, and progressives.
    Any chance you're just reading them wrong? There does seem to be issues with comprehension. That was pointed out rather clearly. If you keep getting what is said wrong, should we blame what is said, or you? I mean this as a fair question.

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Any chance you're just reading them wrong? There does seem to be issues with comprehension. That was pointed out rather clearly. If you keep getting what is said wrong, should we blame what is said, or you? I mean this as a fair question.

    So being insulting, is fair to you eh....Go away Joe.
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post

    this crap about deficit reduction is just that. you all don't want deficit reduction because you want more and more government spending to justify economic vandalism imposed on those more prosperous than you are
    Neither side thinks the debt is a problem, if they did, both sides would not have have unanimously agreed last week to authorizing $650 billion dollars in military spending for next year. The vote was 98 - 0!
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Neither side thinks the debt is a problem, if they did, both sides would not have have unanimously agreed last week to authorizing $650 billion dollars in military spending for next year. The vote was 98 - 0!
    do you know what have been the most wasteful wars in USA history

    the war on poverty

    followed closely by the war on drugs

    the former creates millions of dependents who are self regenerating

    the second has created millions of people with felony records and often become real criminals or wards of the state

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    But letting the Bush tax cuts expire is NOT raising taxes.
    It is just allowing a temporary tax cut to expire.

    When the Bush tax cuts were first passed they were temporay cuts and had a "sunset" attached to them.

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    How long did we have these tax cuts? Long enough for them to effect the economy in such a way that remove them would cause a serious change
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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you know what have been the most wasteful wars in USA history

    the war on poverty

    followed closely by the war on drugs

    the former creates millions of dependents who are self regenerating

    the second has created millions of people with felony records and often become real criminals or wards of the state
    What about giving millionaires and billionaires tax breaks that didnt need them? Does this count as welfare or free handouts that produced nothing.

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How long did we have these tax cuts? Long enough for them to effect the economy in such a way that remove them would cause a serious change
    yeah the bush tax rates have lasted longer than any tax rates since the start of the RWR administration

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    What about giving millionaires and billionaires tax breaks that didnt need them? Does this count as welfare or free handouts that produced nothing.
    who says they don't NEED them

    what a stupid comment. The GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED MORE MONEY-it wastes too much as it is. Your posts demonstrate a rather significant lack of understanding of what is a handout

    until the top one percent pay less than ONE percent of the Federal tax bill they are not getting handouts

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    who says they don't NEED them

    what a stupid comment. The GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED MORE MONEY-it wastes too much as it is. Your posts demonstrate a rather significant lack of understanding of what is a handout

    until the top one percent pay less than ONE percent of the Federal tax bill they are not getting handouts
    So your are says Buffett doesnt know what he is talking about either because he pretty much said the exact same thing. Tax breaks are hand outs. Medicare, Medicade, SS, and other social services are not hand outs they are paid into over time so who really doesnt understand what a handout is I thing that would be you.

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